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@K1lgore, I'm sorry, I love my dog. I have a lot of great memories with her, and nothing lifts my spirits like having a cuddly animal that is literally ecstatic to have me come home. But if she got cancer, and my only way to save her was to give her chemotherapy for $1,000 a session, I'd have her put down. Granted, with most procedures it's not just a matter of money. Most procedures are traumatic as hell for the animal because they have no idea what's happening to them or why. I have personally known someone who got chemotherapy for their pet rat. It's lunacy. Just get another rat. Even if you may love your pet like they were your child, they are not your child. And unless your pet is a tortoise, you are going to outlive it. Pet lifespans range from 1 year (rodents or fish) to about 15 in the case of some dogs or cats. If you can't handle the idea of your pet dying, then you should not have one. Period.
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@K1lgore, sorry about the rant, but some people are just so fücking stupid about their pets that it just sets me off. Anyone who gives a pet a birthday party, wedding, funeral, bar mitzvah, or any other human milestone celebration can just fück right off. The animal doesn't know or care what you're celebrating.
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@I Are Lebo, i feel you, I had a friend get his girlfriend of 8 months a turtle for her birthday. She got attached to it and within two weeks it developed respiratory issues, and he spent over $200 to try to save a $20 turtle. I told him it was silly the entire time and that he should get her another turtle but she insisted on trying to keep it alive. Poor little guy suffered for 4 days before dying, because she was too stubborn to let nature run its course.
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@Dwight Fart Schrute, he could barely breathe and was gasping for air the entire time. We watched him slowly pass away in what seemed like agony, and this extremely naive girl is asking for a new heating element for his enclosure because "that should fix everything, it HAS to work" instead of euthanizing the poor thing. Made me sick to watch. It's stupid people propagating the cycle of stupid bullshjt, but death is an unavoidable part of the life cycle and eventually they'll have to come to realize that.
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@I Are Lebo, my pug is one and needs an operation which isn't covered by the insurance so I will pay for it, my husband bought him for me when we found out I couldn't have children after my cancer treatment, so he's my baby. I know he won't be around forever, but if I can give him a better life (widening his nostrils so he can breathe without struggling) then that's what I will do. Can't say I'd be as attached to a Hamster though!
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@Naughtyboob, I'm not saying surgery for an animal is dumb. That would be ignorant. Veterinarians exist for a good reason. The example that @Dephenostrator gave is a good one. If you can do a simple procedure to correct a problem, or even a not so simple surgery that will fix a problem, that's one thing. I lost my first dog last year (1 year exactly last week). She had a congenital heart defect that caused her heart to swell, which put pressure on her other organs. If the vet had offered an option to give her a heart transplant, I'd have thought he was insane and would not have done it. That's not because I'm cruel. Giving that kind of procedure to a dog that will only live a few more months with it is what is cruel. So a procedure for your pug that improves quality of life is not only fine, it's compassionate. If you can and are willing to afford it, the actual price is fairly irrelevant.
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@Dwight Fart Schrute, what sickens me the most is that people take the same attitude towards humans. Believe you me it is much better to recognize when your time is up than to stave off the inevitable for as long as possible. I've seen pets and people waste away from disease, the extra time is NOT worth it. Not beyond having the chance to say good bye.
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@I Are Lebo, as someone who had numerous pets (dog, birds, fish, snails, hamsters, now it's just the birds) I would do everything to save their life. They become like family members after a while, and o loved/love everyone of them with all my heart. The only exception: when it's clear that forcing an animal to stay alive only makes it suffer. That happened with my dog Floyd: he was there since I was born, and we grew up together. Then, in 2013, I got a call on school and my dad said that we had to put him down (he had cancer and arthritis, and on that day he suddenly didn't walk anymore). I got home crying, we went to the vet, he told us that we could keep him alive but that it would be better to let him into dog heaven. So I just kneeled down to Floyd, with the last of his strength he put his head in my arms, I hugged him for minutes, walked out and cried my eyes out. It's difficult to let go, but sometimes it is necessary. But I understand that if someone loved their pet (...)
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@A pet named Steve, (...) be it a mouse, a snake, a dog, a bird, a horse or whatever, and there is a chance to save them without doing them any harm and actually save their life, then it's justified. A life is a life. But like you said, forcing them to stay alive only because you'd be sad or making them go under operations etc that only make them suffer is not acceptable in my opinion.
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@A pet named Steve, thank you. You put that better than I could have. If you want to save the life of a pet for their sake, that's noble. But trying to save the life of a pet that is dying for your own sake, or trying to keep them alive beyond their natural life span, is cruel. It's the same thing with humans. It's easy to say "I don't want my grandpa to die" when you aren't caring for them in their nursing home and you don't see the suffering. Pets are less able to communicate when they are suffering.
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@TR8R, alright, let me put it this way. If somebody's life sucks and their pet is their only/closest companion, then I have sympathy for them. While I do think that they should fix their life instead of lamenting it, I know just how hard that can be sometimes. I also understand that it's natural to celebrate the good parts of your life, no matter how trivial they might seem to others. But that's the point. Nowadays, when someone celebrates their dogs birthday, and are sharing it with others, they are trying to make these events, that really are important to them, seem important to others. And can we please be honest with ourselves, here? It is not important. A dog doesn't know that it was born on a certain day, and it has no concept whatsoever of a birthday. If it makes you feel good, that's great for you. But it's not important. (1 more)
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@I Are Lebo, if that was the only problem, I wouldn't complain. But it goes farther than that. Recently I read an article about a Jewish man that got his dog a Bar Mitzvah. As a Jewish man, this offended me. I had a Bar Mitzvah. It was a lot of work. It was expensive. It was an important time of my life. To have a dog be granted this cheapens what it means to have a Bar Mitzvah. I really try to be tolerant, and accepting, and I'm not arguing that you shouldn't be allowed to make up reasons to celebrate. But can we please stop treating our pets like they're little humans?
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@Caine, all good, your reply brought me back here and I enjoy reading my own discussions a year or two later. It lets me take a fresh perspective to my own arguments and reevaluate their validity. I was harsh about it, but I still hold the stance that people who ascribe human milestone celebrations to pets are pathetic and shouldn’t be encouraged. I also still firmly believe that many types of animals simply aren’t worth most types of procedures, and many of those procedures are cruel to administer to an animal.
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@Trump Repellant, I kind of wish you hadn’t brought me back here. The timing is bad. I just had to have my dog put down two days ago. She was old, senile, and suffering, but it’s still really hard to let go. Not that there was an expensive procedure that could have saved her, there wasn’t. But still.
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