@MMSieBreeze, it only costs you 70% of your paychecks for the rest of your life, what’s not affordable about that
@MMSieBreeze, Here in the UK sure our NHS has problems like any health care system. But i find it really affordable and has saved the lives of many of my family who otherwise wouldnt be able to afford the care required. Also I know I'm probably gonna get downvoted for saying this but it is true. Our healthcare system is more cost effective than the current American system.
@bonja, ours is so bad most people will probably upvote you
@bonja, shhhh, let the Americans talk about how effective foreign healthcare is
@bonja, how much are you paying in taxes though?
@Sir Borksalot , as a recent graduate with a "starter graduate salaried job" not a lot tbh. But even if I did pay more it feels totally worth it. No high insurance premiums and I still have enough money to go out with friends whenever I want, go on holiday, afford my car and apartment etc.
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@bonja, so someone else is paying extra for your share at the moment? (I don’t mean this conversation as a criticism towards you or where you at at in life right now)
@bonja, It better be more cost effective, we’ve been told it’s “free.”
@Sir Borksalot , not really. Everyone pays proportional to their income. I earn less now as I am starting my career. Eventually when i get further a long (already gaurenteed to earn more as i progress in my job) i will pay more. Also as I don't use many services and I am healthy I am a net contributor through my tax and work. However I have the benefit if something awful happened and I couldnt work I'd have the protection to not be put into crippling debt to look after myself.
Duckman!!!!! Anyone else remember this show????
@megamanx181x, it was a great show
@megamanx181x, dude... we are old fuks. That show had some crazy funny moments, who could forget
@Megahut, so random but I loved it
@seeUpee, I think the show was a little ahead of its time cause I remember it would only come on late at night. Show needs to be on Hulu and binged watched
@megamanx181x, I really don’t think it was popular enough for that. If they did I would definitely give it a go again for the good O’times
The United States has a population size where this would be extremely impractical if not impossible.
Furthermore the high costs of healthcare is more due to government meddling and monopoly than anything else
@carguy25, it probably also doesn't help that we're playing World Police for all of these places. If we didn't need an army we could probably have Healthcare one their levels.
@That one lurker, if we were to put in something like that it would eclipse our military budget by over 2x the money
It’s quite simply impossible for the United States
@carguy25, yes, I agree. I'm only stating that other countries can have their "free healthcare" because we eat the cost of defending them.
@That one lurker, well we nearly equal all of the other nato countries spending
Honestly I’d love to see a large amount dissolved and it go private as was originally intended. Probably end up being more effective as well as much cheaper. Keep the National guard and make everything else private. Setup everything else by contract. Let the free market provide
@carguy25, I agree that privatizing the military force would cut down on spending over all. The National guard should be more structured as if it was a military defense, instead of just a home relief rear guard. The over arching problem I see is if corporations like Disney for instance starts producing a mercenary force. Disney owns enough now to become it's own country, that and all ethicacy of war would be thrown out the window. The only great benefit of it would be it conflicts would be over quickly which is good in and out of its own right.
@That one lurker, that’s why contracts exist
Personally if Disney wanted to make its own country I’d say let em. But my personal views are more extremely libertarian than most
I live in America and I paid zero dollars out of pocket to beat cancer
Say it with me now, friends: “The desirability of a commodity doesn’t justify the use of force to obtain it.”
@A Deformed Penis, no, it’s the necessity of that commodity.
Shoplifting bread and water from a gas station is a lot more understandable than robbing it for drug money.
@A Deformed Penis, unless those “drugs” are the lifesaving prescriptions withheld from low income citizens by private corporations for profit.
@A Deformed Penis, I'm with Lib on this one. Story from personal experience:
My little sister and I (I was 18, just barely getting into the business side of things) were at home depot. A guy had his dog on a leash, but it lashed out and briefly attacked my sister. I thought she was just scared, and asked if she was okay, to which she replied "yeah".
We get home, and as it turns out, she was bitten, and by the time we made it back to home depot, the guy was gone, so we couldn't confirm if it had its rabies shots. Home Depot had footage and knew who the guy was, but refused to disclose the information, so we had to take my sister to get rabies shots. The visits and shots all together cost upwards of around $20k. Our insurance, which we pay around 1-2k a year for (if I remember right), would only cover $500 of the entire expense. The fact that some insurance is forced makes it even worse, because then they can charge ungodly anounts. And you could ruin your life paying hospital bills
@Invalid User, you could have probably sued Home Depot for that. They held the identities of a known criminal and possibly endangering the life of a little girl. At the very least you could have asked law enforcement to step in. If the guy is so irresponsible and neglectful to allow his dog to strike out at a little girl then it's his fault. I'm not saying you chose poorly, especially if you were just a couple of kids. There were more resources at your discretion and other ways to push that bill so you wouldn't have to take the full force of it.
@That one lurker, yeah, I understand that, and my parents are taking legal action now (it wasn't too long ago) my point was that everything medical is super expensive, and insurance doesn't cover sh!t
"Affordable" until you look at how much you'd get without paying the taxes to hold up such a system. Worth it until you realize waiting lines suck for simple healthcare just like they do at theme parks. And great service until your service is now a mandated right granted by government tyranny, not a product of the industry field you studied for.