$6 billion worth of rice, then we have to solve the problem again tomorrow
@Commander Wolffe, I think you misunderstand the word solve
@Commander Wolffe, if they only need $6b today to solve it, what have they used the other billions of dollars on every year.
@Richard Cypher, blackjack and hookers
@injit, that’s acceptable
@Commander Wolffe, Step 1: Identify the leaders f**king up countries and causing world hunger.
Step 2: Assassins.
Step 3: Assassins for the new leaders who didn’t catch on quick enough
Step 4: Profit.
@SweetHoneyBun, From what I've seen, that's a lot of people's definition of the word "solve"
@Nellybert , mostly profit for the assassins but hey, they've gotta eat too.
@mas2de, Foreign aid budgets drop by tens of billions a year, taxpayers all profit too.
But yeah, assassins profit first - gotta look after the independent businessmen ya know.
@injit, you forgot about the cocaine
Unless they’re building farms and ranches and teaching them how to raise it won’t they just be starving again next month?
“Ok, what’s the plan.” ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,The UN released a plan yesterday… now we see if Elon was serious or just be an a hole. “Ohh that’s a good plan…. But I don’t want to spend my money. I was only kidding. “
@Monter408, it's sad that he is proving to be just another scummy billionaire who just happens to be good at memeing
@ThePandaPool , he sold 6.9 billion in Tesla stock less than a week ago. What do you assume that was for?
@ThePandaPool , not to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Today is Tuesday, they sent him the info today, he sold enough of his stocks to do the deal. All of that takes time and paper works.
It is an unfair assessment, that since he doesn't have 2% of his net worth available to send to people. That this makes him the scum of scum?
Lets put this in order here, in a week, if nothing happens. Then it's more then appropriate to say this.
@That one lurker, I'm talking about other things, like gaining wealth from contested mines
@Monter408, he also said they would need to keep open to the public books to ensure the proper spending
@ThePandaPool , how many blood diamonds do you think the "normi" American populous owns? How about apple products with platinum or lithium in it? How much plastic gets into the water? And lastly how many people have accepted these atrocities, how many more don't care?
One direct, one tacit, one passive.
Not many know if their Diamond was produced slave labor.
Not many want to focus on real pollution, because of geopolitical politics.
How many say they're against slavery but don't mind the Chinese sweat shops that make our modern comforts?
I'm not sure what sin "contested mines" fall under. And I wouldn't mind hearing what you mean by that.
My point is. Their is evil in America, regardless of where you are in the food chain. To then pin evil on the top is ridicules, when we blindly/actively/passively fund it.
@That one lurker, you're talking apples and oranges there. Look into it yourself. Reading articles will give a far better explanation than me
@ThePandaPool , I'm asking you to point me in those directions. Mostly I was getting mining laws from 19th century.
As for what I said, I don't believe it's apples and oranges. Degrees maybe, but we're discussing scaling problems at that point. But since they're not powerful with out us, then we share blame. One problem I find would particularly left-wing/revolutionary ideologies, is that they're to black and white on what good is. For us=good against us=bad. I've never heard the true Scotts men leftist speak ill of Millionaires and billionaires that support their causes.
So unless this mining is truely egregious, then I'm not sure what I should take from him.
He dipped bitcoin, which is bad.
He's trying to get us a cheap way for space travel, which is good.
@That one lurker, specifically search his name with contested mines. Pretty sure its lithium. The average consumer is ignorant of this sort of thing, while the owners have direct responsibility, and knowledge. I'm not a debater, while I've seen the way you steer conversations twords incorrect conclusions, so I'm leaving it at that. Not faulting you for it, considering I dont know your intentions, but I know enough not to engage.
@ThePandaPool , my intentions are trying to deradicalize your perspective.
I've seen your posts for years now, the last year or so it's fully skewed to what I see as a radicals mind set.
I'd like to put it forward to you that it's not ignorance. But a willfull act of disbelief or malice.
Take the example of climate change. I've done my homework on it and can say I got a solid D-. I know man is making the climate worse. I know pollution is a main factor. I disagree with doomseers that's been spouting off or destruction since the 60s/70s.
Regardless of what it is, I know that climate regulations in America is moving those productions to China. China is sitting us the number one producer, twice that of America. Yet America is the only one that's told to increase climate regulations. Which will intern, send more work to China.
At some point, we are going to need to talk about China, but any comment is called racist.
At some point the activists go from willfully ignorant too bad actors.
@ThePandaPool , what's your thoughts on that?
@That one lurker, I've never seen anyone here called a racist for bashing the Chinese government. Your really gonna try to say that you want to deradicalize me after you ran to defend majorpayne after his "I hate Hitler, but here is what I've noticed about the jews" bullshjt?
Nevermind about me not guessing your intentions. I've got them figured out.
Dont @ me
@ThePandaPool , how can condemning a man be defending him? I argued with him over this. Condemned him three times over that picture and is argumentative style. Over the course of two pictures, now a third.
As for China, look at the maga movement, and it's response towards climate change.
"To continue putting restrictions on America is full hardy. Since China is not doing the same, and worse, making more pollution then the rest of the world."
Climate activists say nothing on that remark, exsept a general smear of racism.
Last, I'm not asking you to guess my intention. I'm being honest with you. Some one can be wrong with out being a liar.
This is where the extremism is.
Being a liar is intentional.
If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but a man can be wrong with out being a liar.
Understand this if anything. Sophism is a disease to an ill mind, that actively harms those infected.
Words have meaning.
Definitions are defining.
There is Truth.
There is Evil.
@ThePandaPool , We can disagree with each other and both be wrong with neither of us being Evil.
Is this something we can agree on?
@That one lurker, we can agree that buying diamonds a waste of money, and that we need to focus more on buying food that wasn't harvested by starving workers, and that lithium ion batteries are not good for the environment and we should be focusing more on solid state batteries and iron air batteries and aluminum air batteries and of course hydrogen fuel cells. We can all agree that Android is cheaper than Apple and often is of equal or superior quality dollar per dollar. We can agree that we can increase plant production to account for clean carbon emissions like coal power plants but that burning gas in cars still contributes to toxins in the air that are bad for all our health. We can agree that it's important to replace plastic with other substances like algae or crab shells or mycelium, but for certain things that are surgically implanted in the human body plastic might still be a necessary substance to work with. We can agree that a mine should benifit the local population.
But mostly we can agree that it's good to hear each other's opinions about things, because having a variety of perspectives is important to seeing the bigger picture, and not forgetting anything is the most important part of solving any problem that is a serious issue.
@Good Pineapple Pizza, my positions on diamonds isn't that they're expensive. They're artificially inflated specifically to keep the value of current stock.
My specific discution was over the efficacy of blood diamonds, and if a man buys one with out knowing, is he now evil.
By my layman's understanding lithium keeps the best charge.
So I'm not sure about other energy storage devices.
What I can say is that we need to move to nuclear.
Cleaner then coal, less messy then oil.
We just need to make high disposal standards, and an educated population.
Since by my understanding France is the largest exporter of energy in Europe because of their nuclear power plant.
@That one lurker, well it's said God examines the heart, so if you buy a blood diamond that you've been told isn't bloody, you're good. But if you go out seeking a blood diamond to intentionally buy, you had intent. Now if you don't even ask, but know there is a possibility, that just makes you apathetic, or in a hurry, or tired.
Now lithium may be highly energy dense, but supply is limited, also damaged batteries blow up, which is why i won't buy a lithium battery car. iron air batteries could be really cheap, so if someone can but a cheaper electric car with nothing toxic in the batteries, it's a win-win.
The B1M did a video on Norway burying spent fuel rods 100s of feet underground. They're calling it the future of nuclear waste disposal. Maybe thorium could play a role in our nuclear future? But coal is a good clean way to get by in the meantime. The biggest problem with coal is the health of the miners, breathing that stuff ain't healthy.
@Good Pineapple Pizza, that's a fair assessment, I'm going to need to look into the logistics of iron air batteries. I've also heard little of graphite batteries, but know even less.
As for the blood diamond discussion. I understand God's words there. The problem is not the base underlined psychology being espoused by panda as a wholly materialistic ideology.
Christianity is not focused on the material understanding of things, but more so the immaterial.
So if you have an ideology that has a moral weight set on actions, then a man but buys a Blood Diamond unknowingly is as the guilty as a man who bought it purposely.
For example I find slavery abhorrent. Would I be willing to buy a slave if I knew theyed be sold to someone with less scruples. I think the right thing there would be to buy them and give them a great home. Then let them free.
But to materialist, I'd be a slave owner for life, even centuries beyond that.
As for coal. I agree. I think we have good ways to filter the air
@That one lurker, the was slavery in Jesus times during the Roman Empire, but it was more of a servitude by contract kinda thing. Some slaves who were treated well got their own house and a wife and kids, and would choose to remain in service to their master after completing their contract. Now i'm not under the delusion that nothing bad happened, i'm just saying there were some differences when compared to the European-African slave trade in the new world.
Now for nuclear, that shouldn't be seen as the solution to all our energy problems, the radio-active material exists in limited supply. We will eventually run out. Now wind power is renewable, but it kills lots of birds. There is promise of wave energy with Wave Swell. The Solar Dome could generate power while desalinating water. Agrivoltaics combines shade-crops with solar panels. Ocean cities can takes advantage of temperature difference in ocean depth similar to geo-thermal. There are a myriad of options that don't pollute.
@Good Pineapple Pizza, I'd ask you to read some history over slavery. The servitude your discussing is over debt. The bible says to keep them only a number of years then release them from their contract. Your getting that mixed up with slavery.
As for any kind of blame, let's remember what the Arabs where doing at the time. The Ottomans was selling black men and women across Asia for roughly 300-400 years, then Europe got involved. Then the Arabs was still at it 200 years after the fact.
Look up the Barbary War or the Barbary Pirates. Our third president went to war because Arabs was capturing ships and enslaving civilian filled vassals. Just transitory ships to Europe.
Before you ask about efficacy in a comparison between several different Arab states and European stuff.
Arabs would castrate every slave. So they could keep a monopoly on the slave trade.
If this is news to you I'm sorry to be blunt.
As for nuclear I doubt that we'll run out as quickly as you think.
@Good Pineapple Pizza, by Green on the fact that there's a myriad of different options. I find wave to be the least insensitive, but it may become worse then deforestation since the life in the ocean would slowly get destroyed. Faster in my opinion then pollutants.
But I wholly believe we need to find a better way to store energy.
@That one lurker, I actually meant there was a specific kind of slavery in Israel, I didn't mean that it was the only form of slavery at the time. I should have worded that differently.
but yeah, I do wish people would remember that the colonies had Irish slaves months before the first black slaves were brought over. And yeah, the barbary were black slave traders trading white European slaves, and it lasted longer and was more brutal than slpvery in the new world. Also i can't stand it when someone assigns blame for slavery to the Forefathers. The colonies werx owned by Britain before we declared independence, and slavery was grandfathered in. America didn't start slavery, and we fought a war to end it. More white American soldiers died fighting in the war than the number of slaves who died here.
But yeah there are still slaves in America today, like 4 million women around the world are sex slaves. I'll never understand how a man can sleep soundly at night knowing he's involved with such things. Disgusting.
@That one lurker, i've never heard of wave energy destroying sea life, but for energy storage the lake reservoir solution works well. You use excess energy to pump water from a lake down there to a lake up there, and when you need more power than you're producing you just let it flow downhill through a hydroelectric generator. it doesn't get mech greener than that, except for grease to lube the pumps. Maybe there's a non-oil based engine grease? idk
@Good Pineapple Pizza, The Taum Sauk reservoir in Missouri for instance is a man made lake, so draining it to make power won't kill any fishes. as long as we build them properly they shouldn't collapse. Unfortunately the Taum Sauk did fail due to failure of design. They rebuilt it though, without the flaws if I remember correctly. Engineering Catastrophes did a thing on it.
@Good Pineapple Pizza, maybe the model I'm thinking of is outdated. The wave turbine I saw looked like a window with venetian blinds. It was using the flows momentum to generate the kinetic energy to spin.
All I saw it as was a net.
But I thought it was the best reusable energy source we had come up with.
As for slavery, I understand now that there was miscommunication. Sorry if I blasted on you.
@Mag3rPayne, Paying a tax bill on his stock options.
@That one lurker, uhhh yeah no I can still directly blame the guys actively enslaving. You're right that as a collective, people either knowingly or unknowingly support these things, but the one who is actively doing it is still the worst. Like your answer is to just blame society? You're not wrong, but your answer is useless because it is significantly harder to change societal values of diamonds than it is the criticize the Elite into changing their ways and sourcing diamonds (or emeralds in this case) in ethical ways
@EVILdrPORKCHOP3, I believe, if I read you right, you fundamentally didn't understand my slavery example. Unless you state people that work inside unethical systems are wholly unethical because they work with in them. Without giving mind to how they use the system.
My example was a man that stood against slavery, put in the enviable position at the sells block. He has a choice, let a person be ground in the system or knowingly give them a better life as a freeman.
If you did not understand my example that's fine.
As my point, to your rebuttal, social norms is the foundation as the keystones of culture.
Since the dawn of time man has taken Stone, solid, rigid and well-defined, concrete material. Be to get into a shape that he so desires. There is no difference with words, a man on a Witch Hunt will always find witches.
If I were to suggest a good example, in the book crime and punishment. Only in the second chapter, there's a drunkard that twists his own logic into being a good father.
@EVILdrPORKCHOP3, I'm not joking when I say it brought me to tears.
To the point If I didn't make it directed.
The example of a Blood Diamond was the idea of an unknown at that was being concealed. If this ignorance is tantamount to evil even if the act isn't made with malice.
In this answer, I blame the lack of information. Not Society or the elites that price controls diamonds. Hidden info obscured on purpose is evil. It is the person that first did the action that is at fault. Not the elites attempting to protect their assets with price controls, since it also protect the investments of lower to middle class people.
inadvertently but still.
How much do MOABs cost? I may have a solution
“Ok, what’s the plan?”
@Chief Poundserhard, https://www.wfp.org/stories/wfps-plan-support-42-million-people-brink-famine
Elon is going to bitch out
@megamanx181x, he already sold stock to cover it.