Quickly, escape into the white void outside the panel borders!
Ah, the strawman argument. A common tactic by feminists, and easily disproven
@Devil Ocean, a common tactic by anyone trying to refute evolution and climate change.
@Devil Ocean, I swear to God I'm going to choke you out Jim if you don't have these TPS reports.
@Robenstein, Never seen someone use a straw man for evolution. That'd be tricky. Most often I see argument from ignorance, usually absence of evidence
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Taxation is theft.
@DHS Crisis Actor, while the government may take money with or without consent, it is far less like a burglary than it is a fee for the public services they provide. So I don't disagree with you, but I believe that your terminology is misleading.
@Depressed Panda, it's just a libertarian mantra. However, the federal income tax is unconstitutional and not one sent of what's stolen from your paycheck goes toward the cost of services you expect from your government. That's a lie.
@Depressed Panda, no they don't.
@DHS Crisis Actor, first off, having an air force is also unconstitutional. Congress doesn't actually have the power to do that, but we let them because it improves the country by providing security. Second, federal taxes do go to services. They fund the military, the NPS, the VA, medicare, and all the other federal offices.
@Depressed Panda, 100% of what is stolen from you via income tax is paid back to the federal reserve.
@DHS Crisis Actor, then where does the money go?
@DHS Crisis Actor, then what funds the military?
@DHS Crisis Actor, how is the military financed? How are the interstate regulatory bureaus maintained? Who is paying for the court system?
Maybe what you meant was, a large portion of federal money goes to things beyond the scope of the federal government's purview?
@Depressed Panda, you don't seem to know what the federal reserve is or how it works. Might wanna do some investigative research into that
@Hot Coffee, Donald trump.
@DHS Crisis Actor, it seems to be a government-created banking system that exists to help regulate the economy (based on a minute of wikipedia reading). I still don't know what you mean by saying all income tax goes to the federal reserve.
@Depressed Panda, what?! LOL it's not government created at all.
@DHS Crisis Actor, I guess I misunderstood it then. Could you please explain?
@DHS Crisis Actor, can't trust anyone who's trying to give a lecture on finances but cannot even spell 'cent'.
@Depressed Panda, The modern incarnation of the Federal Reserve is a private company, whose board consists of bank heads and private investors who then pay for and finance a lot of government actions from a blank account with no money in it.
They use an IOU system to pay back the US government, with the money paid coming in the form of newly minted currency rather than existing cash reserves, and thus they constantly run up a debt of interest owed them by the American Government for the money "borrowed."
The US government pays a portion of this back annually with federal taxes, including iirc a large percentage of the federal income tax.
@DHS Crisis Actor, non sequitur.
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