That's got to be the best pirate I've ever seen
Surfs down, dude! *thump*
@Pillar Angel, Haha... Good one.
Does anyone else think the federal government shouldn't have so much power? There are 50 states in America, just let the states make their laws and move to whatever state matches your beliefs. The federal government seems to want to make laws for every state the same, but someone living in Alabama is probably going to have different beliefs than someone living in California. It's easier to move to a different state that matches your views than to move to a different country.
@Tegu Trump, don't start this crap. Just watch the guy get hit in the nuts and move on.
@GunSupporter, fair enough
@Tegu Trump, I somewhat agree. The federal government should only really be in charge of the nation as a whole(National defense, immigration, that sort of stuff). And yes people in Alabama and California have very different ideals and beliefs. California hates America and freedom, while Alabama believes we would be better off if California sunk into the ocean
@Richard Cypher, I just think there's got to be a better way than having half the country pissed for 4 years at a time......but I will admit, after seeing on the news that a French couple is being forced by their government to rename their daughter to a more female name, we do often take our freedom for granted
@Tegu Trump, problem is someone is unhappy because somewhere else is different than what they believe in. Someone in California is unhappy that Alabama people generally don’t care about their stupid issues and then has to force their belief on the rest of the country.
@Richard Cypher, agreed, I think it'd be better if people could mind their own damn business
@Tegu Trump, The government tried that with the Articles of Confederation, and they had to abandon it because states kept getting into fights with each other over various things and the federal gov didn’t have the ability to arbitrate the issues between the states. The Constitution we use today is pretty much a fix to the government you described
@TriangleTesticles, good to know, thanks
@Richard Cypher, Sure, there are people in California who worry over stupid issues like the gender crap and the black lives matter stuff. There are people in Alabama who worry over other stupid crap, like whether or not gay people get married and about a traitorous rebellion that lost over 150 years ago. Both have extremists that worry over dumb issues, but I don’t think they hate America for it
@K1l, traitorous depends on which way you look at it. But Alabama doesn’t worry about that. It’s the others that look in and decide to make an issue of things.
“Out there, somewhere, there is something that doesn’t conform to my views. And it’s my duty to do something about it!”
That is the mindset that I despise. I don’t need anyone looking over over my shoulder and telling me they don’t agree with me therefore I have to change. They should just mind their own business
@Richard Cypher, could say that's the mindset for a lot of religious people, so I see that mindset coming from both sides of the aisle
@Tegu Trump, I never said it was limited to one side or another. However in recent days it is almost exclusively coming from the leftist, pc, feminist, socialists. Which is why libertarian is gaining more ground. Many people just want to be left alone
@Richard Cypher, and being left alone isn’t a direct correlation with government size. You can have a small government be meddlesome.
@Richard Cypher, it is 100% traitorous. Whether you agree with what they did or not, it was a rebellion that organized a military to fight a war against it’s own country. That is a prime example of being traitorous. It doesn’t matter if they were in the right or wrong, it’s the textbook definition of traitors.
@Tegu Trump, well right now we have people from red states telling us Californians how to live so it goes both ways
@Richard Cypher, well Alabama loves racism and cousin fvcking but you know... to each his own
@I Are Lebo, you are correct. However the increased oversight into people’s lives would require larger government or more specifically more reach and power
@Richard Cypher, this is true. Big government is better at meddling. However it is also possible to have a big government that chooses not to meddle, or meddles less.
It’s like money. How much you have matters, but how you use it matters more.
@K1l, that’s why it bugs me when I see people defending the Confederate flag. It is literally the most unAmerican thing because it represents a group that wanted to destroy America as it was.
If the confederates won, you wouldn’t have the Stars and Stripes anymore.
@I Are Lebo, lol true a big government that is only concerned with protecting the nation from outside threats and not running peoples lives would be a much better scenario
@Richard Cypher, I mean, there’s interior threats, too. But governments are made up of people, and people conflate things they don’t understand with threats all the time.
That’s why the USA’s federal government legalized gay marriage a few years ago, yet a number of states still won’t allow it.
@Richard Cypher, I'm disappointed in myself for getting into this... BUT everything that becomes civil and individual rights topic really need to be decided on a federal basis. Gay marriage, gun rights, abortion. Agree or disagree in them, they are something that needs to be decided as a whole. I know it's ridiculous, but imagine a single state banned a religion, or brought back slavery, or banned women from voting. I shouldn't be forced to move out of my home to go to another state because I don't want to lose my guns. If the federal government banned them, it would be a different story altogether, but it wouldn't be a "if you don't like it, leave" situation which I see as very unamerican.
@Tegu Trump, im from Alabama and its too hot in california
@GunSupporter, I honestly want to thank everyone for the discussion, it's given me a broader view and things to think about....I'm not one of those people who won't change his mind on politics, but I rarely get real political discussion without it turning into arguments that don't actually talk about the issues....I like this community
@Tegu Trump, just watch out for the trolls.
@GunSupporter, I'm not big on politics, but I enjoyed reading this discussion. I think the ability to decide which laws govern you just by moving to that state would be pretty cool. Also, it would likely bring people of similar beliefs into the same areas, which might would produce fewer problems between people. This is a concept I've never explored, and I kind of like it.
@GunSupporter, anyone who has to resort to the “there’s the door” type of response does so because they have lost the willingness to be civil.
@Tinkledink, no way. There’s a word for that, and that word is echo chamber. Down that road lies civil war.
Because you will inevitably end up with one state saying something another state finds heinous, like the aforementioned reintroduction of slavery. The only logical response to having someone reintroduce or introduce an inhumane practice is to forcibly shut them down.
What’s being proposed here is to reform the United States of America into the Loosely Affiliated States of America.
Hopefully this guy can’t reproduce now