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@ nigmin, well that makes sense systematically but doesn't make as much sense in the context of this story. Cause it would take years to systematically change the Girl Scouts but some girls want to do the things the Boy Scouts currently do. Maybe merging them would be simpler, I wasn't a scout so not sure
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@Blue Shirted Guy, read the story and want to give some context: I think this particular girl isn't pushing for change in the Girl Scouts because she feels connected to the Boy Scouts. She has participated in the Boy Scouts for years with her older brother, but obviously cannot become an official ranking member. I don't agree with her in the slightest that the Boy Scouts are discriminating. The reason why I said nigmin's logic statement was out of the context of this story was because this particular girl is already 16 and wants to be an Eagle Scout in Troop 414. I don't think we should blame a 16 year old girl for not trying to systematically change the Girl Scouts vs trying to achieve her dream of being an Eagle Scout, even if her argument is extremely flawed
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@Blue Shirted Guy, the problem is, is that really GREAT Girl Scout troops already do most of what the Boy Scouts do. They have tons of activities ranging from camping/survival, STEM projects, etc. I'm surprised more boys don't want to be in the girls scouts. Selling cookies is a hell of a lot easier than selling that stupid popcorn.
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@SchroedingerPussPuss, Im sure there's tons of overlap between the two, but they are two distinct programs and do have differences. I'm not disagreeing with you though, and I think your statements kind of support a merging option as well. I was just saying that this particular girl has a deep personal connection to Boy Scouts, which is why she's making this push. It doesn't make sense to say "well just join Girl Scouts" (that's actually addressed in the article) or "well just push to change Girl Scouts." Those arguments are 100% valid to most, but don't necessarily apply to this 16 year old girl
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@Cloverleaf, I agree. Why not just let anyone join either? Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts both have their own individual merits which appeal to different kids. As, you are right, they do completely different activities. In some areas, Girl Scouts literally only have opportunities to make crafts, which is fine for many. That being said, there is no need to have a 'one sex only' policy for either groups. Keep them the same, simply change the sex policy - very easy solution that benefits both groups.
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@Blue Shirted Guy, I'm just saying she needs to choose Girl Scouts because that Boy Scout popcorn is terrible. Honestly. I'm half tempted to nudge my 5 year old into choosing Girl Scouts over Boy Scouts because I do NOT want to sit in the sun in front of a Walmart begging people to buy shjtty popcorn.
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@SchroedingerPussPuss, haha somehow I didn't even know Boy Scouts sold popcorn. Don't worry, if you need to get it off your hands I'll bite the bullet for you. Nobody should have to be exposed to sh*tty popcorn. More importantly, nobody should have to be exposed to people walking into Walmart. I wonder if you can earn a badge for enduring that horror
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Better Idea: we change the Girl Scouts activities to reflect cool shít like kayaking and knots and riflery instead of useless crap like friendship bracelets and overpriced cookies, and thus send the message that you do not have to be or identify as a boy to do cool things, and then let people pick whatever scouts they want.
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Folks, realize the fact, boys and girls are different. Yes there are girls who like to do boy things, yes there are boys who like to do girl things. But the fact remains there has to be a place where boys can be boys and a place where girls can be girls. I don't want to see girls in Boy Scouts and I don't want to see boys attending girls scouts. I loved being in the Boy Scouts when I was younger, mainly because I didn't have a strong male influence in my life at the time. I liked being part of the group, learning what boy should know at that age, enjoying the activities that we did and growing socially. My sister was in the Girl Scouts and it was very much the same for her, and she made many friends that she still has to this day. It would not have been the same had it been mixed.
Venture Scouting is for both males and females between the ages of 14-21. They can all do the same activities.