The fact that protesters are discouraging the vandals actions as well should be telling. The best footage I've seen was a black woman filming a couple of white girls graffitiing "BLM" on the front of a Starbucks, when the black woman said "You're not helping us. You're just making it worse", all while crying her eyes out over the act.
Protest is a wonderful thing, but when it spills over to lawlessness, your cause loses any traction that was gained.
@that1german, I think protestors have an obligation to stop the looters and rioters, especially when the protestors are stopping the police from doing their job.
@Doctor Yak, and there are instances of such happening. I think it was on Joe Rogan's podcast, but they showed a clip of a rioter taking a hammer to a street corner to get bricks to throw at a police line, when all of a sudden 3 or 4 guys jump him, take the hammer, and dragged him to the police, who promptly arrested the rioter.
I think the protesters know that not every cop is out to get them, otherwise they wouldn't have done what they did. And I think its because this time around, we have people from patrol officers to chiefs of police condemning what happened to Floyd and even some cases joining the protest.
@that1german, wow so it happened once? That’s crazy I’m sure all the other times no one could have possibly stopped people from vandalism and looting
@that1german, I saw some protestors straight up shove a looter to the cops.
@Richard Cypher, well actually its been reported many times through the last week, and unfortunately, not everyone has the courage to stand up to wrongdoing, but the ones that are are sending a clear message : we don't wanna be associated with looters
@that1german, my favorite one was when an agitator drove in front of some peaceful protestors and set out a firework (a large one) and lit it. A protestor ran up and threw it into the agitator's, car, where it went off.
@Richard Cypher, it has been happening more and more now that protestors are realizing their message is being lost by these agitators.
@RogueKnight, thats one I haven't heard yet. Do you know what city this happened in or who reported it cause thats amazing.
@RogueKnight, I read that as "alligator dove in front of some peaceful protestors" and got very curious
@that1german, I can't remember which city, unfortunately. I'm a cop and it's been a busy week in my area.
@Kangaroo Jacked, lol. That would be even better.
@RogueKnight, fair enough. Be safe out there
@RogueKnight, dude, that’s epic! Did anyone catch a video of it?
@Hot Coffee, yes. It's out there.
@that1german, I saw a video of a group of protestors that caught one of the ppl that were rioting and looting and they roughed him up a bit and turned him over to the cops and I have a lot of respect for any other the protesters that do things like that because it shows that they understand what u just explained the fact that doing things such as rioting and looting hurt the cause and once that behavior starts your protest is now meaningless in the eyes of most ppl and you’re all criminals because of the actions of a small portion of ppl
@RogueKnight, I believe that’s called instant karma
@RogueKnight, it's been pretty peaceful in my area. Not a cop, Sheriff's Deputy.
@LilPuppyOfDOOM , sheriff's deputies are cops. At least those in my department consider ourselves cops. Well, the jail deputies don't.
@RogueKnight, maybe where you're from. Here, there is city "cops" or police, then theres CHP, then theres us, deputies. All law enforcement yes, but different. Think Military branches.
@LilPuppyOfDOOM , my county is very urbanized and only part of it is rural, so the sheriff's department is almost like city police here. We just don't care about traffic as much.
That could be why there is the difference in how they are viewed. Just a guess though.
After the destruction of the tea the article was cropped incorrectly and we can only guess what happened.
@spongeblade, Probably a kinky sex party
@spongeblade, if I’m remembering my history correctly I believe the rest of that sentence is “after the destruction of the tea the patriots went back to the ships the next day and brutally murdered everyone on board and raped their corpses” kinda took a hard left turn into wtf territory
@Jdrawer, if Ben Franklin was there definitely
@bobbylupo, so nobody noticed that was a joke?
Well don’t you feel dumb now
@megamanx181x, yes, rather often, thanks for asking!
*awkwardly stares you in the eye while standing slightly too close*
*slow facial change from happy to surprise*
Oh you’re talking about the meme about the Boston Tea Party, I knew that already.
*looks past you*
Oh look! A chipmunk!
*scampers after chipmunk*
@Hot Coffee, aww buddy you’re alright in my book
@megamanx181x, thanks man it’s nice to have stranger-friends.
That looks funny.
I mean, friends who are strangers, but still friends.
@Hot Coffee, lets go get a beer and see if make more sense buzzed
@megamanx181x, haha, totally, I’m certain it will
TLDR Rioter are dicks. the people part of the Boston tea party were not
@voided sanity, what does tldr mean
@bobbylupo, to long didn't read
@voided sanity, thanks
The tea was fronted by the British government. Which hurt them financially, which hurt their military might, because police didn't exist. Also Benjamin Franklin was willing to pay them back for the lost Tea... they refused.
I support the protests. I do not support people who just want to destroy things
Bro no matter what stop breaking in and looting from small businesses.
Oh please. Disregarding the current politics that is a highly inaccurate depiction of the revolution and the protests leading up to it. John Malcolm being covered in hot tar and feathers with a noose around his become being threatened with hanging is so associated with the event that several pictures from the time depict it happening there, even though it didn't.
You can't just paint the Boston Tea Party as this sunshiny event and ignore that the Boston Massacre is just as famous an event from the same town and era as was well, a protest turned ugly when the British officers shot into a crowd of protestors killing some people. That seems pretty analogous to what's happening now.
Like feel whatever way you want about the protests today but this paints an inaccurate historical picture of the time leading up to the revolution
@Hoopscallion, so, are you trying to compare the current protests to the American Revolution then?
@Doctor Yak, No. The picture brought the connection, not me. I said twice that I was completely disregarding modern politics. All I meant is that painting the time in America as non-violent and coordinated and peaceful by focusing on the Boston Tea Party is disingenuous. To connect that to modern politics it would be like painting the protests as non-violent by only looking at protests where violence didn't break out and excluding all the rest.
Arguing politics in a comment section is probably the biggest waste of time a person can do, I just don't like people using history to paint a picture that isn't exactly accurate
@Hoopscallion, but this is speaking about the Boston Tea Party specifically, not the American Revolution as a whole. So, I don't really understand why you're bringing up the period as a whole when it's irrelevant to the meme.
@Doctor Yak, sure, i may have read more into than was there. It just felt like it was painting the boston tea party guys as peaceful protestors concerned with non-violence when they demonstrably weren't.
@Doctor Yak, I get what you are saying but not everyone of the BLM protests are violent either in fact I'd argue the majority arent and if you are basing it off of the movement then I'd argue that we act less violently now than we did in the 1800s overall. the Boston tea party wasn't the only thing that happened is the point I guess. BLM has also had protests that were quite large with no occurence of violence.
@Runnin with scissors, totally. Like, personally I think the protests are asinine, but that's neither here nor there. I have nothing against the actual protestors for protesting, and I will defend their right to protest. Also, it's absolutely true that it's a small portion of the people going to the protests that engage in the rioting.
That being said, people should not be defending or justifying the destruction or violence by the rioters.
edit: just because the American Revolution was justified does not mean the bad things that were done are suddenly justified too. Same goes for the protests.
@Hoopscallion, but like u said the British fired into a crowd of protestors for no reason that’s y it turned ugly so again the protestors weren’t looting or rioting or doing anything wrong
@bobbylupo, I did not say that and that is not what happened. The British soldiers were hit with rocks, snowballs, and clubs by the protestors. The people were going at them hard, daring the British soldiers to fire upon them so they'd have an excuse to kill them. One soldier fired into the crowd after being knocked to the ground with a cudgel and all hell breaks loose and five people die.
Again, this was a violent time in America, not some peaceful thing to be looked upon as an example of what to do. They absolutely goaded the soldiers into firing with taunts and violence against them
@Hoopscallion, Nobody's saying it was a peaceful time, the pic is discrediting the use of the boston tea party specifically as an excuse for looting and rioting. Nobody is justifying the later or previous actions of the group that did it, nor painting that time period as peaceful in any way. It is solely about the event itself to set the record straight. You're arguing with nobody.
Looters deserve live ammo instead of rubber bullets.
And this is how it should be done
Meme long. No read. Hurt Earballs.
@JacketOff, u read. It good
Can we stop with the politics on here please
I listened to an interesting podcast where a historian found that the sons of liberty lied about how much tea they were importing on their customs forms, as opposed to their insurance forms. Many of them were selling tea on the black market, and the tea act stood to lower the price of British tea to be as cheap as the tea they were selling. He theorized that the Boston tea party was more likely an act of organized crime than a political protest.