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While the movie itself is quite good I personally was disappointed with The Last Jedi for the same reason I was disappointed with Indiana Jones and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: it took the franchise in a direction that didn't make any sense based on what happened in the trilogy that preceded it.
@Sexy Homunculus, for that exact same reason is why I loved it, it was a breath of fresh air that I was ok with
@No Sjit, I'm glad you enjoyed it. And there were individual parts of it that I liked, I just hated how they treated Luke Skywalker and seem more focused on recycling material from the old trilogy rather than making something new and original. I did like Rogue One though and I think the upcoming Solo film has potential, we'll see how it turns out
@Sexy Homunculus, I'm amped for the Solo movie.
@CrazyCrichton , same. When I first heard about it I didn't think it was something I'd cared to watch, but when Ron Howard became the director he said he was going to make it like a gangster film. And the recent trailer looked great. Definitely looking forward to it now
@Sexy Homunculus, yes! Finally we get to see a more indepth look at the criminal underground and life on the "streets" of the galaxy far far away along with some smuggling of course.
@Sexy Homunculus, Wat? You just said it took the franchise in a direction that made no sense based on the old trilogy, but then said it was more interested in recycling the old trilogy instead of making something new. Which is it?
@Sexy Homunculus, for my part I loved the new direction it sent the series. I thought it was a much needed injection of freshness and unpredictability, and Luke's character arc was absolutely amazing imo. It was tragic but ended up being inspiring and hopeful as he realized that failing doesn't make you a failure
@TR8R, Sorry if that was confusing. To me it seems like half the time Disney is just rehashing a lot of the Old Trilogy, and when they do something different it feels like it's really going against a lot of what the characters went through and experienced in the previous trilogy (not with every single thing but a good portion of it feels that way, at least it does to me). I was disappointed with The Force Awakens since it was mostly recycling A New Hope, and it even felt like The Last Jedi did that too with The Empire Strikes Back though not nearly as much. One of the things that bugged me the most about TLJ was how it treated Luke Skywalker. He went through three entire films learning how to become a Jedi and redeem his father, and then when his nephew turns bad he just completely abandons his friends and the entire galaxy.
At first I was against the idea of him even considering killing Kylo like that, though as others have pointed out, and as Luke himself says in the film, it was just a moment where he briefly lost control to his emotions just like how he almost killed Vader at the end of their fight in Return of the Jedi. So I guess I can buy that, but not his following reaction. Rather than trying to bring Kylo back or at the very least protect those Kylo might attack next he just bails on everybody. We're talking about a guy who literally lost his hand in trying to save his father, and rather than making even a basic attempt to redeem Kylo he's just like "Oh dear my nephew's bad, guess that means I have to completely give up now. Forget the fact I
went through three films trying to save my father, now that my nephew has turned to the dark side I should abandon everybody and let Kylo and the First Order go across the galaxy killing and enslaving people rather than owning up to my mistake and at least trying to put it a stop to it. I'll just go to some distant planet to die there even though I could literally die anywhere, and while I'm at it I'll leave a map inside R2-D2 showing my exact location despite the fact that I don't want anybody to find me. Yeah, forget all the personal growth I experienced in the Original Trilogy. I'm just gonna throw out everything I stood for so Disney can turn me into an unrecognizable figure just for the sake of killing me off to make room for MaRey Sue and a bunch of new characters we have little reason to care about."
@TR8R, anyway I know thats a lot to go through so I don't mean for it be so lengthy. I'm just really passionate about it and have a hard time condensing my thoughts without losing the points I'm trying to make. Like I said to No Sjit though it's nice to hear you liked it. Im certainly not going to tell people what they can and can't like, and just like how I want to vent and express my disappointment with these films those who enjoyed them have every right to say how much they liked it and express their views too
@Sexy Homunculus, the choice for the fin story arc bothered me a lot. it seemed like they tried to shoehorn in a moral about how war is gray but they executed it very poorly, at its worst points making their story completely parallel and ancillary to the main story and at best resulting in their whole story having culminated in the deaths of a whole bunch of rebels
@Hoban Washburne, Exactly. Finn's character is one of the few things I like about the new films. It's interesting seeing his perspective in being a deserting stormtrooper and trying to fight the people who enslaved him, but with TLJ it's like Rose was thrown in to make us forget about him and focus on that whole "War is bad, and so are those who profit from it" spiel
@Sexy Homunculus, now im not excusing ep. 1 or jar jar but i think disney looked at the fan reaction when the sequels changed up the dynamic too much and so they made the conscious choice to copy and paste. and its working for them, folks love the new movies because its nostalgia. they dont want new, they want more of the same and disney’ll facilitate it because its a consumer market. i enjoyed watching TLJ, but the plot was wanting
@Hoban Washburne, for a good part of the audience that's true, but for the rest it's frustrating seeing the same thing being shown and being told its new (like Call of Duty was for a long time). I really wish they would've gone the route Blade Runner 2049 took: that was also a sequel that took place +30 years after the original but it came up with an original idea that legitimately continued the story and actually explained part of what happened in the 30 year span between it and the first film. And I'd take Ryan Gosling's virtual waifu over any female Star Wars protagonist any day, but that's just me
@Sexy Homunculus, yes
I love the look on Luke’s face in this, just so annoyed and done; like me at work
Prequels might of been bad but they were still vastly superior to both TFA and TLJ.
tlj recorded the worst ticket ordering, in that everyone watched it at the theatre once, but the likeliness that people would go back and watch it again was lowest. also there was no lightsaber fight. again. which as a 1999 guy, i grew up on. tlj again left me with blue balls at the end. if youre going to recycle 80% of former movies, at least make kickass lightsaber finales especially with the budget you have. but in retrospect, i doubt rey and kylo's skills could ever come close to equaling that of obi wan and anakin
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