He's right tho
Thor's smart, Thor knows both candidate suck, be like Thor...
@NotCaveJohnson, that would be great if the majority of the populace could take their heads out of their asses and vote for a third party. Maybe someone could write a fantasy novel about it. Could just be a novella.
@NotCaveJohnson, always happy when other libertarians comment cool comments on my uploads. Thank you. It's nice knowing some people on this app aren't completely fvcktarded.
@NotCaveJohnson, damn straight 🗽✊
@TheLoneRanger, I think most people don't vote for third-party because they don't realize there is a third-party.
@Fun Facts 101, #FeelTheJohnson
@Fun Facts 101, Jill Stein
@I Fvck Shjt Up, *Repeatedly vomits*
@President Bartlett, As a supposedly liberal president, I expected better from you.
@Feral Snorlax, I'm Liberal, not a crazy anti-vaxxer
Bruce Banner: Gary Johnson
Happy when other libertarians comment cool stuff on my uploads. It's nice knowing some people on this app aren't completely fvcktarded. Thank you.
@DHS Crisis Actor, when you commented instead of relied like you meant to 😳
Don't forget about third party Jill stein!!!
At least Cap has the right side.
@Gollum Fetish, did there
@deez nuts, you too
Bernie Sanders guys
And again I see you've failed to tell me what issue you support and settled for attacking my statement as gibberish.
At least Tony has the right side.
@Gollum Fetish, i see what you
No way captain America would support Trump! 😂
@ayyyy, haha seriously tho!
@ayyyy, nor Clinton who I could totally see being in hydra
@ayyyy, He fought the nazis, now he wants to bring back their ideals??
I am late to comment, but yes
They both seriously suck!
On one side we have an unhinged racist, xenophobic, sexist assh*le, who has been a party to multiple scams, including robbing 6 million dollars from veterans.
And on the other we have a tempered, risk-averse, center-left candidate who has better qualifications for president than any other in US history, with a reputation of changing opinions, despite having only shifted ideology about as gradually as her party over the past 25 years.
...it's basically impossible to decide 🙄
@Titus Andromedon, I know there are a lot of conservatives here, so this'll get a bunch of downvotes. But for people who are anything but far-right, it really isn't a very hard decision.
@Titus Andromedon, robbed six million from vets? You mean the money he donated after taking the time to properly vet the charities?
@Titus Andromedon, And who has lied and deceived people countless times. Not to mention the fact that the director of the FBI said she was extremely careless and had bad judgement. Let's tack on warmonger, because that is what she is. Oh, and touting the fact that she's a woman as if it were more important than her policies.
@CrazyRightWinger, *Not sure if a parody, or actually a crazy right winger* 🤔
@Titus Andromedon, saying she's "better qualifications for president than any other in US history" is complete hyperbole, and baseless. Calling anyone who disagrees with you "far right wing" means you're so ideologically biased that you couldn't possibly understand or even contemplate a thought other than those that fit your narrow, biased point of view.
You are exactly the same as those you chose to dismiss out of hand.
@Titus Andromedon, trump says some stupid stuff, but anyone who isn't a race baiter and actually thinks about knows its not racist. Also, she is probally the worst qualified in history (tied with trump). Her term as Secretary of State has been a disaster, and if the DOJ and FBI cared about justice at all she would be in prison.
@Titus Andromedon, thats not from a "crazy right winger", its from a federal employee who's had to take annual training for years letting us know that if we did even a tenth of what Hillary did, we'd be in federal jail within an hour.
@big freedom, Well... yeah. Except, y'know... I'm on the other side from them
@Titus Andromedon, 2 sides of the same coin. You are exactly like them. Completely self assured that your team alone know what's right.
Blinded by ideological purity rather than open minded and intellectually honest.
@big freedom, Haha ok but that last comment was a joke. I don't believe in ideology, I only care about facts. Like it's a fact Clinton did shady stuff with emails. I just don't give a sh*t when that issue is measured up against other things, like her stance on women's rights. I'm open to new ideas and compromise though
@Titus Andromedon, riiiight. If you can say that she's the most qualified candidate, you obviously aren't intellectually honest at all. If there were any justice she would be in prison for mishandling national security while actively avoiding the FOI (which is why she set up private server).
@big freedom, She is the most qualified. She has more relevant experience than any (non-incumbent) candidate ever. That's an indisputable fact.
I also don't care about experience that much, again, versus her positions, but it's still true.
@Titus Andromedon, in what way has her experience made her the most qualified. A crooked lawyer with a short term as a senator and then a disastrous stint as our Sec of State. I would argue that any of the governors and especially Gary Johnson are infinitely more qualified based on the fact that they've been an executive of an entire state with all of the departments under them.
@big freedom, ...I can tell you're not hypocritical about being entrenched in your opinions...
And experience as a First Lady who was actually active in the White House, senator, (a successful job as) SoS, and running several successful and lucrative organizations, totaling 3 decades in domestic and foreign politics
But again, besides those facts, experience is less important to me than her plans
@Titus Andromedon, lol. Her experience as First Lady? So therefore I should be CEO of the hospital I was born in? Her lucrative business? Then you support Trump because of his business acumen?
Which of her ideas specifically? Marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman? The freedom of information act is for lesser people? Wall Street gets to write their own regulations through her? Great ideas she has!!
@big freedom, Ok at least you've moved past experience to actual issues.. There was too much gibberish in there to address, so maybe just tell me what issues you care about?
@Titus Andromedon, the funny thing is, I care about almost every issue. Not a single issue voter like most people.
@Titus Andromedon, her time as SoS was an utter disaster and will take a decade to clean up, her time in the senate is unremarkable, and she doesn't have any actual accomplishments. She has "experience" in the same way as a chronic screw up does, but her last name is Clinton so instead of her being fired and going to jail people keep making excuses.
@Titus Andromedon, Just gonna point out that most of the people in the Constitutional Convention were inexperienced in politics. And they wrote our Constitution. Experience is not the be-all end-all. And you say you care about women's rights. I ask, what right do men have that women don't?
@CriTiKa1, Well they were also all white men, and slaveowners, so I feel that's irrelevant... But you have a valid point that inexperience doesn't preclude success
And the women's rights I care about most are: easy, free access to abortion, fixing their abysmal legal defense against sexual assault and harassment, getting paid family leave, equal gender pay, better representation in government, and a less heard of issue: the (legally allowed) lack of women in medical drug trials, leading to higher fatality and complications in women when taking medicines that have been mainly tested only on men.
I know you're probably an anti-feminist, but I'm sure we've gotta agree on at least a couple of those
@Titus Andromedon, While I feel she is the lesser of the two evils we are unfortunately presented with, they are both just that, evil. The fact that these two are what we are left with is utterly astounding.
@Swagneto, I think that's just a thing people believe cause they hear it over and over. Just because her personality is sh*t doesn't mean her abilities are. And while she may sway in issues, her track record shows she doesn't promise something and not follow through. So if she promises to push the dem platform, (love it or hate it) she will.
...Plus if she were capable of half the ridiculous schemes people accuse her of, she'd be able to force passage of any legislation she wants
(PS, she's not exactly my first choice for president, she's just not as bad as people say)
@Titus Andromedon, I don't believe that because I've been told it. She is disingenuous like most politicians, and is only in it for her own personal gain. While she clearly is well versed in the issues, she doesn't have the average citizens best interest at heart.
@Swagneto, Yeah you're right, I can't disagree there. Out of curiosity, who would you actually want for president?
@Titus Andromedon, out of our originall candidates I agreed on most things with Bernie Sanders and Gary Johnson. I am socially very liberal, but when it comes to monetary matters I don't feel I'm knowledgeable enough to espouse my opinions. I prefer to rely on fact when it comes to more concrete issues, i.e whatever is most efficient and beneficial to most americans.
@Swagneto, Hahaha that's funny cause I agree with everything Sanders except for his fiscal policies. In college, I studied Econ and wrote a final paper on the empirical effects of raising min wage by varying degrees
@Titus Andromedon, So I take our beliefs are mostly the same, I'll leave the fiscal reasoning to your wisdom my friend. Haha btw love your username, haven't caught the second season yet.
@Swagneto, Haha thank you. I recently switched from Dr Rick Sanchez, cause I want to start throwing out more Kimmy Schmidt quotes
@Titus Andromedon, I coulda sworn it was you Rick, I recognized the little picture. Haven't changed my name in a while, got too much swag and im too neto. 😎
@Swagneto, That's..... neato burrito
@Titus Andromedon, I think you're thinking of that weird ass taquito in a speedo
@Swagneto, A pequenito taquito, if you will
@Titus Andromedon, Most of the founding fathers were anti-slavery. George Washington, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison all wrote letters and documents speaking out against slavery. In the original Declaration of Independence there was a clause condemning slavery. The founding fathers weren't as racist as you think, try to learn some American history.
@Titus Andromedon, . That list you pointed out are not rights. You have the right to speak your mind without being punished by the government. You have to right to practice whatever religion you want. You have the right to vote. You have to right to a trial by jury. You have the right to own property. Those are rights. The Equal Pay Act of 1963 already eliminated the gender wage gap, what you think is a gap is actually a myth. Women make up 50% of the voters and yet they haven't voted in more female representatives, what does that tell you? We don't need a gender quota in Congress. Abortion shouldn't be free. I agree with your other points but once again, these are not rights. Women have all the same rights that men have in the United States.
@CriTiKa1, Just checked. Literally all four people you named owned slaves. Between just those four, they owned almost 1,000.
...I don't know how to face palm any harder than I am now
Also, I agree that they were at least less Islamophobic than the current Republican Party, so I guess that's something.
"There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it" - George Washington, Letter to Robert Morris
"Slavery is such an atrocious debasement of human nature, that its very extirpation, if not preformed with solicitous care, may sometimes open a source of serious evils" - Benjamin Franklin, Address to the Public from the Pennsylvania Society
"We have seen the mere distinction of color made in the most enlightened period of time, a ground of the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man over man" - James Madison, Speech at the Constitutional Convention
"Every measure of prudence, therefore, ought to be assumed for the eventual total extirpation of slavery from the United States. I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in abhorrence" - John Adams, Letter to Robert Evans
Read the original rough draft of the Declaration of Independence to see Thomas Jefferson denounce slavery.
@Titus Andromedon, I don't think I can face palm any harder. Go learn some American political history.
@CriTiKa1, Sooo... Um I'm just gonna move past the fact that you're trying to deny that the founding fathers owned slaves by quoting their abolitionist texts.
Just for curiosity's sake, what would be required to prove the wage gap to people like you? A notable public example? Ten? Census data? Independent studies? Don't reiterate your belief that it's a 'myth,' just tell me what proof would be necessary
@Titus Andromedon, A credible study. One that doesn't manipulate the results by lumping all men and all women into their own groups. One that separates wages by careers. One that is done by an unbiased source. The study you're falling back on lumped all men and women together and didn't separate careers. The results were blatantly manipulated. It is illegal to pay women less just because they're women. If it weren't then businesses would only hire women, because it would save them a ton of money. So the gender wage gap is not only a myth, it is illogical, because you are assuming that businesses don't care about cutting costs. And I never denied the the founding father owned slaves. I pointed out that they wanted to abolish slavery. George Washington freed his slaves in his will, Ben Franklin founded a society that integrated former slaves into American society, Jefferson constantly proposed plans to abolish slavery. I'm going to sleep now
@Titus Andromedon, what about actual liberals? Or people who care about a candidates policy and not their genitals? Both are equally bad. Gary Johnson or Jill Stein for me
@Thegirlfriendsshirt, Equally bad?? You can't say you align closely with the party of science and equate "ban all Muslims" with using the wrong email address.
And if you care about policy, Clinton's laid hers out. And they're at least mostly good! She's basically all policy and substance, no personality.
@Titus Andromedon, considering the fact that you think the only issue with Clinton is that she "used the wrong email address" tells me you know nothing of that situation. (I can inform you about it if you'd be willing to listen) And no I don't identify with any party, even though I'm registered as a dem (yay closed primaries, right?), I vote for the best candidate. And though she may have laid out her policies during the primaries, they've already changed and I know they'll shift to the right before and after November. She isn't policy substance and no personality and it shows with most of her voters' arguments. Most of them bring up that she's a woman and we need a woman president otherwise you're a sexist pig that hates all women
@Thegirlfriendsshirt, I don't want to argue over what she did, but even if she insidiously leaked US intelligence (and she didn't), there are way worse things than that. It's not in the top 50 things that I would care about in a president. And she's still extremely capable of advancing whatever agenda she has. And there is no way she would shift said agenda as far right as to back down from any important issues. The policies you're saying she's pivoted on have consistently shifted to the left.
And I don't like the "vote woman, or you're sexist" claim either, but voting for a candidate against women's interests certainly is sexist. That would leave only Clinton and Stein as options. And Stein is way behind even Johnson (and some of her positions are bad). Worse still, if a third-party candidate is on all ballots, Republican chances go up.
@Titus Andromedon, Ok, let me give you a little scenario. Seaman Timmy is given an assignment in which he his handling classified information. Seaman Timmy decides it's a good idea to talk to one of his friends who is not on the assignment about classified info while sitting down at a pizza joint. Nobody in the joint says they hear anything about the info, but his superiors find out about the carelessness and mishandling of classified information. What do you expect will happen? Do you think this person deserves a promotion?
Well hey, in a competition between two djcks, pick the Johnson.
When I read the FBI's response about Clinton handling those emails. The way I took it was they said she was careless but none of them needed to be classified to begin with. They weren't that important basically is what I got from the article I read.
How about we stop focusing on petty party warfare and instead focus on the war between the living and the dead?
cant wait for thor movie