What religion forbids an American made up capitalist, consumer driven day event that consists of wearing a costume?
@hasher2288, jehovah's witnesses, for one, aren't allowed to celebrate Halloween at all because it's "devil worship." They aren't even allowed to celebrate Christmas because it's originally a pagan holiday. They don't celebrate Easter for the same reason. They don't celebrate thanksgiving because "it is not a holiday that glorifies jehovah and therefore is a distraction by the devil." They basically don't celebrate anything (INCLUDING birthdays) except their own modified Easter that's on a different day, with the justification for thanksgiving being the most common for ignoring other holidays.
(Source: a very good friend of mine is an ex-JW and I just quickly asked them what they WERE allowed to celebrate and the answer is pretty much nothing)
Edit: yes, I am intimately aware that JW are a cult. Cults are religions, too, both by dictionary and legal definitions (sadly...)
@OopsIEsploded, Probably find that Southern Baptists, ‘trad Catholics’ and a few of the other weird sub-sets of Christianity take the ‘devil worship’ line too.
@hasher2288, A shiity religion.
@OopsIEsploded, how many of them are that strict though? I know plenty of Muslims who eat bacon
@PacificaPelican, sorry in advance if i sound ignorant, but I feel like when it comes to religion, more often than not the smaller the community, the more isolated they tend to be. Either by choice or because of community ostracization, and the more isolated a group, the more strict in their beliefs they tend to be. (i could be and probably am wrong)
@OopsIEsploded, and they're not even allowed to watch movies that even have the slightest hint of evilness. Even a bit of violence will make the movie unseeable for them.
@OopsIEsploded, Jehovah's Witnesses are by far the dumbest zealots I can think of, at my job we've had to have a bunch of kids and elderly separated from their families because they don't want transfusions of any kinds done.
@PacificaPelican, JW are incredibly strict. If you're found to have broken their tenets or practices, you can either repent (public humiliation among many other, more repugnant things; the amount of child abuse that gets covered up by the watchtower is staggering because people are told to keep "internal problems" outside the public eye/the police because "god will judge") or be excommunicated, branded a "heretic," and have your entire family and community and support system forbidden from speaking with you/contacting you/helping you ever again.
So yeah. It really is that strict.
@Nellybert , oh yeah. Definitely. I live in the Bible Belt (ugh) and here they don't even do trick or treat on the day of Halloween for exactly that reason. And they limit it to ~2 hours, with the dual reasoning of child safety (which I get) and "limiting the devil worship." And apparently, according to my friend who used to be on city council (and left because of the bullshjt), the latter reasoning was the original impetus for where I live, with the former being a post-hoc justification.
@OopsIEsploded, i can confirm this as well. I like JW is my go to for bible studies. But like any religion, i dont practice their practices. I believe all religion is horrible due to their own interpretation of the bible and their knowledge. Note: religion is something formed by people not by Gods. Since i don't trust people and dislike most of them due to their nature, i stay away from them and dont get involved in their activities.
@OopsIEsploded, Yeah, some people classify literally anything other than their specific branch of their religion as luciferianism/Satanism/devil worship.
I’ve been called a satanist quite a few times on twitter because I’m in the Freemasons - apparently because Freemasonry doesn’t proselytise Christianity (it’s open to all religions) I’m worshipping Satan. But then, some Southern Baptists and trad’ Catholics tell me that being a Protestant (Anglican) makes me a satanist anyway.
@OopsIEsploded, i think you mustve misread, he asked about religions not cults
@LaDarkProphet, so all of them?
@afro samurai2012, Essentially, yes lol. Though some more then others. Moderate faiths and denominations arnt so bad. But the conservative and extreme ones give the entire faith a bad name. And the really sad part is that most moderates are silent when it comes to the bad apples of their own faith. How many Muslims actually fight for change and condemn those who follow the extreme paths? Not many. And how many Catholics keep their heads bowed and their mouths shut about the catholic pedophile cover up? Most. Sad really.
@LaDarkProphet, I'm more focused on what those religions promote (a lot of death for harmless things) but the silence from the moderate denominations don't help either.
@afro samurai2012, Exactly. The more harmful ones would have a much harder time voicing their stupidity if the entire community came together to shut then down. But alas, that is not the case. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke.
And thats what we see. Supposedly good moderate religious folk, of all faiths, standing idly by while others within their community perpetuate hate, death, and violence. Quite sad really. Quite sad indeed.
@OopsIEsploded, just a reminder, Jehovah's witnesses aren't true Christian's, or even a real religion, they're a cult, plain and simple
@OopsIEsploded, Isn't JW a cult not a religion.
@Davrial, i mean, yes, they're a cults they're also a religion. All cults are religions, but not all religions are cults. Though technically since cult means "veneration of a particular object or individual" Christianity could be called the cult of jesus. Again, only from a technical standpoint.
But as for JW specifically, they meet both the technical and legal requirements to be called a religion. They are an organized system or worship of a higher power with exclusive members, a codified doctrine, and regular meetings.
They are also, as you said, a cult, since they venerate the one dude who wrote their holy book (rewrote the Bible how he wanted) as infallible.
You are, however, absolutely correct that they aren't christians, at least in the catholic sense. Though arguably neither are protestants. (Who "is" and "isn't" christian can be so subjective sometimes... it really depends on who you ask)
@hasher2288, all cults are religions (or at least they tend to be), but not all religions are cults.
JW meet the legal and technical criteria for both.
@OopsIEsploded, Who founded them? Bobby Boucher's mom?
hope the parents arnt so strict that they restrict wearing a suit and tie in the name of fitting in with the other kids
@Z0IDBERG, if he went naked... could he technically get around any loophole?
The Asian kid isn't wearing sunglasses because he isn't as bothered by the sun
Or get this you could dump your religion because every afterlife is a literal hell of apathy also there’s no actual evidence supporting any of them
@eleven, Careful now. You might ruffle the jimmies of some religious zealots. Quite a few reside on fp lol. Mostly Christian apologists but their are a few Muslims floating around as well.
@LaDarkProphet, I’ll ruffle the jimmies of whoever I please what I said is the truth immortality is hell as you will run out of stuff to do but you continue living to do it again and again forever as is the nature of eternity and until any god or gods can be proven to exist in some way outside of feeling presences or voices in your head there is no actual evidence to support their existence
@eleven, I agree 100% but not many religious zealots ever think to consider the logistical nightmare of such a faith. They cant comprehend the concept of eternity. Sure heaven might sound nice for the first 10,000 years. But what about after 100,000? 900,000? After a million years of perpetual existence, doing the same thing over and over again with no relief in sight and no hope of changing the monotony, one quickly realizes its nearly as bad as hell itself. And hell, while im on the subject, is absolutely barbaric. No finite crime could EVER be equal to a infinite punishment. Not even Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc, deserve literal eternal torture and punishment for their crimes. At some point their torture begins to outweigh whatever crimes they committed. Regardless of how henious they were. As revolting as i find serial pedophiles i dont think even they deserve literal eternal torture. And im the guy who thinks the most moral option to solve pedophilia is with a bullet!
@LaDarkProphet, hell is just heaven with fewer options because eventually you will grow numb to torture
Anyone else seeing the five blacks guys and the white girl?