Congrats, you played (with) yourself.
I’m going to be jerking off so no one goes and we all stay together!
@megamanx181x, yay! Me too!
@Hot Coffee, circle jerk!
@megamanx181x, I'm just going to watch... from the closet... dressed as superman
@FunnyPicsHoldGuard, now it’s a real party
It might be crazy from a normal human's perspective, but from the perspective of any practicing person from any of the Abrahamic religions, he is right. Wackos gonna wack.
@Mhael, why are some religions just so damn stupid. Like c’mon. What retard would think that’s even at all possible?
@ImNotRacistBut, the funny thing is that religious people are a**holes while non religious people are in fact just much of an a**hole. So at the end of the day just be nice to someone or just perpetuate the hate we all feel deep down inside.
@Mhael, at no point in my education in an abrahamic religion was i taught women go to hell if men Masturbate over them, thats a little out of their hands. Orthodox Islam is just a backwards backwater religion of zealots
@Mhael, yeah, I'm with Medic here, from an Abrahamic background and usually the onus on the whacking is on the whacker not the person being whacked to
@Medic135, the absolute audacity of everyone who believes what you're saying is mind boggling. Either you don't know enough about your religion, or you're being purposefully obtuse.
There are myriads of examples of ultra sexism similar to what these idiots are talking about in the meme in all Abrahamic religions.
For Christianity for example, Tertullian, a famous Christian scholar whom to this day still has people who believe his views, said women are the devil's gateway, and that they're the cause of the doom of all man kind, etc. There are plenty of christians today who believe that and worse. And many many quotes from both old and new testaments that are ultra sexist.
As for jewdiasm, off the top of my head, the Torah called women property to be traded like oxen and slaves.
These are just some examples from literally hundreds per religion. So you sitting here and telling me Islam is the only backwater religion is megalul.
@Mhael, you must be fun at parties, are you just upset because no one masturbates to you?
@Sven and Otar, yeah in my years of being pretty devout I've never been taught women go to hell for the actions of completely different people. I'm probably just being "obtuse" though lol
@Medic135, ngl I'm pretty upset no one is masturbating to me xD.
But for real though, you keep referring to the fact that you're a devout person, which 100% fine. I didn't say everyone who is a follower of an Abrahamic religion is backwater, I said that the core of all of them is. And the examples I mentioned can't be refuted, they're literal facts and quotes, and there's plenty of them.
Just like not all Muslims are bad, not all Christians or Jewish people are bad. Lot of devout people are fantastic and kind, but pretending there isn't a whole bunch of backwards text in every abarahamic book is burying your head in the sand.
@Mhael, "from the perspective of any practicing person of any abrahamic religion"
My English classes were only 4.0s, so i may be wrong here. Does that not mean everyone who is a follower? It's clear you're trying to walk back your comments to sound more moderate on the topic. Please pardon the absolute audacity of those of us who believe our faith is worth more than some of the worse teachings in the name of it.
In all reality it would take days to accurately debate religion lol, i suppose ill follow the example set by Jesus himself and turn the other cheek now. You said what you said at the beginning here, but i accept your latest revised comment on the topic and i appreciate you trying to make a less offensive statement about us
@Mhael, so here's the thing. While Tertullian is a famous christian scholar and considered by the Church to be a doctor of the faith for many of his contributions to the philosophical thought of our beliefs, his views about women are not held in high esteem by most main stream denominations and branches (Catholicism, Methodism, Lutheran, Presby, etc.), furthermore nowhere in the bible (or the canons of the catholic faith) does it say one's sexual sin is attributable to another.
What is largely hit on again and again is that we are responsible for our own actions and conduct and receive rewards and punishment on the merits of those actions in the context of the faith, but we cannot be punished for the sins of another
@Medic135, I think you define people by their religion which to me sounds ridiculous.
I didn't walk back my statement, I said
"I didn't say everyone who is a follower of an Abrahamic religion is backwater, I said that the core of all of them is."
You can be a kind and genuine person, but still have bad core beliefs. If your own religion has those bad core beliefs in it, and you ignore those core beliefs that makes you a wonderful person, but that makes you not really that devout. Religion is religion, you can't pick and choose what is right and what is wrong when you chose to follow a religion as a whole.
All religions have terrific aspects that promote love and empathy and caring, but also all of them equally have hateful aspects that do the opposite. And claiming Islam is the only backwater one is turning a blind eye to issues your own religion has.
@Mhael, and i pointed out that is not what you said, unless my understanding of words is just way off
@Medic135, it comes back to tying devoutness to a person.
Imo if you don't follow your book to the word, you're not really a "practicing" or "devout" person to your own religion. That is of course, just my opinion.
I'm trying to say that just because you are a kind person or that just because your religion has a lot of kind people, that doesn't mean that your religion itself is kind. That means those people choose to ignore the bad core beliefs in their religion, which in turn implies that they really aren't practicing or devout.
My original statement was practicing people would agree with those idiots, and it's true. If you practice your religion down to the letter, and not pick and choose, then yeah you're as back water as those guys are.
@Mhael, when a religion exists for millennia, someone at some point will claim to have some divine message in the name of your God and it will he utter bullshjt. That's not on everyone, and most gospels of that sort are either not held to canon or are discredit by further canonical teaching down the line. You have no idea what you are talking about and should stop, no one seems to think you're correct. The audacity of some people.
@Sven and Otar, pal I'm gonna stop wasting my breath here i hope you do too, this guys fedora is on tight tonight
@Medic135, but that's where you're wrong. You seemed to indicate that all of Islam was backwater, and you totally ignore all the backwater aspects in your own religion because you're biased.
Your argument that I have no idea what I'm talking about holds no merits, I have brought facts and quotes, and you have brought feelings and butt hurts.
And you sit there hiding behind "it was written ages ago and people don't believe that anymore" can suck it. People to this day from all religions still believe in ludicrous crap. Saying they don't is once more, turning a blind eye. And claiming Islam is the only one who is still backwater is big lol.
@Mhael, I've brought feelings and butthurts lol the mean basement boi thinks im back water because i dont read or follow the teachings of every guys from 3000 years ago who claimed something in the name of God, annnnnd neither does the rest of the mainstream church be it catholic protestant or jewish
@Medic135, and you believe that the vast majority of Muslims believe what those guys say?
You made a blanket statement regarding all Islam being a backwater religion based on those guys, why can't I say the same about your religion based on that one guy?
@Dimir FTW, “asshole” isn’t censored on here, there’s no need for that business with the asterisks.
@Mhael, to be fair, he said that orthodox Islam is a backwater religion, and the truth is, he’s RIGHT. Every single nation on this planet with a majority religion being either orthodox or fundamentalist Islam has problems with human rights abuses, from convicting rape victims for adultery to denying women equal rights as human beings to throwing homosexuals off of rooftops. Because the Quran has the rule that latter passages supersede previous and contradictory ones, Islamist fundamentalists have very clear passages, written during Mohammad’s time as a warlord, that clearly instruct that non Muslims are undeserving of rights or respect, and that women are property rather than people.
Christianity hasn’t seen mainstream acceptance of such morally bankrupt and bigoted views (outside of condemnation of homosexuals in the Bible Belt) since the Spanish Inquisition.
The reason to believe that the plurality, if not majority of Muslims believe what ‘those guys’ say is because they claim to.
Poll research showed in places like the UAE and the other majority Muslim nations that most of the populace agree with some of the more extreme views in the Quran, including hatred for gays and non Muslims. Even in places like London and Europe, a startling large number of Muslims polled stated that they had no respect or consideration whatsoever for British women, which is why the rape gangs continue to be a problem.
That’s not to say that Muslims are the only religious extremists out there, but a Muslim extremest is closer to their source material than a Christian extremist.
@Mhael, There is a difference though in terms of what a scared text says and how the majority of its adherents respond to it. No doubt the Bible and the Torah have their very suspect passages and morals, but the overwhelming majority of Christians and Jews don’t hold these ideas to be authoritative, they ether contextualize or reject altogether portions of the texts that are inconsistent with contemporary values and beliefs. That being said, many in Islam do believe in all of the Koran, including its passages that relegate women to a lower status then men. Culturally, the Judeo-Christian world has largely moved past these views, therein lies the difference. It doesn’t take an expert to see a profound difference in ideologies of equality between practitioners of Judaism and Christianity on the one hand, and Islam on the other hand. The truth is the truth even if it is inconvenient to certain ideologies that would prefer otherwise.
@I Are Lebo, unless my mind is playing tricks on me, he edited his comment and added "orthodox" after our conversation ended. Originally he just said "Islam is...." I think.
@Block1187, oh for sure, I agree. But that guy was pretending that there straight up isn't stuff like this in any of the other abarahamic religions at all. I totally agree with what you're saying, that guy does not. He buries his head in the sand and pretends that his religion is better or more righteous when at its core, it has stuff just as fvcked up.
@Mhael, when I read his comment it said orthodox
@I Are Lebo, thanks now I know
@Dimir FTW, for the record, the only words on here that are censored are fück, shït, fäg, and nïg. Everything else is fair game.
@I Are Lebo, thanks again this will come in handy in the future
@Dimir FTW, 🍺🧐👍
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