so do police
As a retired police officer I have to say that....I would’ve chuckled at that. Then would’ve written him a $300 ticket and towed his car. “Who’s laughing now?!???”
@DaSchlappah, And that attitude is part of why many people don’t like cops. Because some like you are petty losers
@Legionnaire07, aaannnddd there’s the first one who doesn’t get sarcasm, or a joke.👆🏻
@DaSchlappah, it's not a lack of understanding the joke or sarcasm, it's just the climate we're in nowadays....
@ThePandaPool , right Though :/
@ThePandaPool , thank you for the reminder, sometimes I forget.😕🙏🏻
@DaSchlappah, what age did you retire??
@megamanx181x, (gasp) don’t you know it’s impolite to ask those questions?!? Just kidding, I did 20yrs and retired at 47. Soooo....I’m old.😂
@DaSchlappah, wow your our oldest FP user! Share more of your life wisdom with us!
@megamanx181x, Ha! Share my wisdom, you’ve got to be kidding! I’ve been following this site for years, and I’ve seen how you all take care of each other in this community. The only wisdom I could give is, keep doing what you’re doing. Keep the awesome content coming, keep the comment section full of the banter, keep the discussion and debates going(politely and/or humorously). The big thing is to keep taking care of each other the way you do. I’ve seen people post about the hard times they’re going through, inevitably someone always reaches out. That’s a great thing in, as @pandapool would say, “today’s climate”. I may be the oldest one here, but thanks for sharing YOUR life’s wisdom. Sorry for the long post....here’s a potato 🥔. (I think that’s how it goes)
@DaSchlappah, bro your awesome and now I want to make fried with that potato.
@DaSchlappah, do you mind if I ask which department you worked for? Or at least if it was large metropolitan area or more rural?
@megamanx181x, he's not the oldest...
@mans laughter, go on....
@MetalHeadTony, I was in a small town, only about 9,000 people. But the movies and TV shows are accurate about the weird/crazy things that go on.
@megamanx181x, retired at 47, but don't know how long ago, so I don't know, but there are stories, rumors mostly, of other retired folks in here who may indeed be AARP eligible.
@mans laughter, man we got two sages among us!
@DaSchlappah, yes it was a joke but Legionnaire07 does have a point
@DaSchlappah, I live in a small town and my parents have a scanner I can confirm
@mans laughter, I’m not? Phew, that’s a relief!!
@megamanx181x, hot dang, I thought I was the oldest. Anyone else over 47 on here?
@DaSchlappah, whoever downvoted you needs to be schlapped *edit (in response to you potato wisdom comment)
@DaSchlappah, thanks for reminding us why we hate you all 🖕🏻
@Legionnaire07, some?! Literally all of them are. I mean, what person of worth would actively sign away their life to a crooked government?
@Gallchobhair, in regards to what the post said...most of the guys I know would just just chuckle at that. Some of them might not find it funny, but none of them would cite a person for something he didn’t do, or tow a car out of spite. Believe it or not, most of us “petty losers” really do care about the communities we work in. If I missed what you were aiming at, please let me know, I’m always happy to have a polite conversation.
@DaSchlappah, Sir, that was well said! In the words of a legend "be excellent to each other" lol
@Chifilo, Sir, it has nothing to do with a crooked government. It has to do with wanting to better and help your community. I’m not sure what type of interactions you’ve had with the police, but I guess they haven’t been to your liking. I’m not sure who “us” and “we” are, but “you” are most definitely entitled to hate the police. Just remember though, no matter how you feel about them, they’ll always be there to help if you need them.
@mans laughter, retired 3yrs ago. I would hope the rumors of wild,lurking retirees are true!
@DaSchlappah, Thanks for doing what you did! People don’t understand that 20 years as a cop is like 50 years at a normal job. I thought I wanted to be a police officer since I was kid. Graduated college with a BS in Criminology, went through the six month academy for a midsized agency (town of 160,000 people) and then finished my three months of FTO. I quit after about a week solo (wanted to prove to myself I could finish). It was definitely a confidence thing. Did not feel very eager when I put the uniform on and I was afraid of devoting my whole life to something like that if I wasn’t 100% sure. It was actually some older cops who didn’t know I was doubting but told me they’d leave if they were my age. I think how I saw so much crazy stuff in those few months on the street that I can’t imagine all the stories you have. I still have the utmost respect for you old sheep dogs who stuck with it. I’m sorry the badge isn’t given the respect and confidence it’s earned over the decades.
@DaSchlappah, i fully defend police as people who just want to better their community. And honestly i had a reason for saying Legionnaire had a point but right now I don’t know what it was
@DaSchlappah, my dad was a cop in a large metro area and just retired. I was pretty baked when I asked that question and was hoping that maybe I have met you before at an outing. Sober me understands the insane chance of that ever happening, but I thought it was funny enough to share.
@Gallchobhair, ok, if you think of the reason you had, hit me up I’m always up for a polite conversation. 👍🏻
@DaSchlappah, hell yeah man. Need more people in the world to converse politely.
@DaSchlappah, you're a liar.
@MetalHeadTony, That’s awesome, glad to hear you were enjoying yourself! It was definitely a long shot, but if you guys are in Ma. you never know! Glad to hear your old man made it to the end!
We are PA, but I drove through MA once and it has a 'A' in it too, so I'll count it as a win.
@Snarfel Burger, Much respect for you sir. That’s a lot of work you put in between school and the academy. More respect for you for realizing it wasn’t for you, and walking away. The job isn’t what it used to be, but what is? Truly hope you can find something you’re 100% about! Best of luck, stay safe!
@DaSchlappah, Thank you sir!
@DaSchlappah, being a cop you fvck tard.
@AngryCommenter, oh, and how do you know I’m lying?
Course he ain't laugh. He police. Laugh sound, not person.
The guys right the news is saying those things, doesn’t mean they are 100% true though
@Commander Wolffe, i mean... it is though? we aren’t just fabricating african american victims out of thin air lol
@Tyler643, that is true they aren’t just fabricated however the media does focus on them. Like let’s say there are 4 police shootings that ended in someone’s death, 2 were white and 2 were black. The media would not only focus on the African deaths and ignore the white deaths but they’d focus extra hard if the cop is white.
I wish I could remember this guys name but I saw a presentation on this phenomenon where he took all the high profile police shootings that involved black men and found identical cases in the same general area and time involving a white persons death that the media didn’t cover.
@Natural Sarcasm , i can’t dispute that, unfortunately. every murderer with a badge should be held equally accountable regardless of the victim’s race, unless of course it’s specifically racially motivated.
@Tyler643, it's not just black victims. I know this is one case but it's still very tragic and the fact you've likely never heard of it lends evidence to Natural Sarcasm's point. Watch the body cam videos of Ryan Whitaker's murder by police. Police do help protect and there are many good officers. My brother was a police officer and he spoke often of the corruption in his department.
@Tyler643, but they're not reporting the facts or the deaths of other ethnicities who are shot by the police. There is no racial bias in law enforcement. Multiple studies have proven that. And those are studies done by private and government groups.
@Tyler643, yeah absolutely, if a cop just murders someone with no justification they should absolutely be held accountable like everyone else. I do think police reform should happen. Unfortunately with the National media outlets reporting the way they are, they are trying to guide a narrative instead of being real journalists, so the ideas being thrown around the most are actually the least helpful.
Like they want better cops with more training yet push the idea that we need to defund them. Lol there is literally no product or service that gets better in quality the cheaper it gets. Police need more funding for better training. Jocko Willink does an awesome explanation with Joe Rogan, he really opened my eyes on how to better train police. You should check it out if you’re interested, it’s actually an entertaining watch
@Tyler643, Yeah. The only thing rational people want is accountability. Sadly some people would rather only see accountability on one side of the spectrum.
@Natural Sarcasm , I think they want the police defunded not because they think they will be able to do less damage if they have less funding, but mainly for 2 reasons. 1, the police have a lot of unnecessary equipment in many places, like military grade equipment such as APCs and body armor, for tiny town police forces. If the funding is cut, odds are they’re going to use that on more day to day needs rather than what are really extravagant toys for fundraising and flexing. 2nd, people want those funds and responsibilities taken from police and given to other agencies and professions. Not every dispute needs two dudes with guns to try and settle it, often, their introduction to the situation only escalated things. Take the autistic boy who was shot 7 times by the police recently. His mother called, confirmed he was having an episode, and she was unable to calm him, but he was not a danger and had no weapons. A social worker/psychiatrist could’ve calmed him without violence.
@Spetsnaz , was this the guy that chased the police with the knife? I don’t know all the details on that one, which is why I’m asking.
Yeah they probably only need certain departments to have all that unnecessary equipment. Most situations where it’s needed it’s known about in advance and they can just request it from a neighboring police station. Though I wouldn’t put body armor on that list as that’s vital for police.
The problem with social workers being first responders is the event of escalation and they won’t be equipped to deal with it. Like a domestic abuser returning home, getting mad, pulls out a gun. Police need to show up first and then bring in the social worker not the other way around
@Natural Sarcasm , so every time there is a police involved shooting there is a reason the police are there( if someone can find and instance of a cop pulling up on someone and just shooting them for no reason, please let me know). Somewhere during this interaction, someone doesn’t do what they’re told to do. This is when things go sideways. An officer I know who teaches defensive tactics once said “Comply now, complain later”. As to the EDP(emotionally disturbed person, which is how police refer to people who have mental disabilities)boy that @spetnaz referred to, I think I remember it being somewhere down south. It wasn’t a child, the sent one deputy, it got physical, the deputy was afraid of what would happen if he was overpowered, so he ended up shooting him. What they don’t tell you in the media is, that because of this one tragedy training was changed nationwide. As far as gear goes....well personally I’ve always been a fan of I’d rather have it, and not need it than need it, and
@DaSchlappah, not have it. Most of the “militarization” of the police started in response to the North Hollywood Bank shootout that happened in the 90s. Criminals, REAL criminals, got better armed and armored. Cops had to play catch-up. While I agree something like a Bearcat should be a regional, or shared asset, body armor is a necessity. After all there is always at least one firearm at every call a police officer shows up to. Sorry for the long winded post, thanks for great discussion.
@Natural Sarcasm , in this case it was a 13 year old and there was no weapon. I’ll put the article below. Im not against the cops going with a SW as long as it’s understood they’re there for security of the SW. we shouldn’t expect cops to be psychologists, soldiers, and event security all at once. And I think the issue is when people hear “defund the police” they think people are trying to disarm cops, when in reality they’re saying we should narrow their responsibilities and create additional departments to handle the more specific stuff. We could have departments where social workers work with dispatchers and cops to determine how to respond to calls, in this case I was discussing the cops just got a call about a violent psych issue, they didn’t hear the mother’s call, where she said he’s not violent, just just unable to regulate his emotions because of his disorder, and he got shot 7 times. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/08/us/salt-lake-city-autism-shooting.amp.html
@DaSchlappah, yeah, I feel like we’re hitting similar points. I wasn’t trying to loop in body armor, tactical gear, or guns in the unnecessary category. I think those are absolutely necessary for police to be safe. Like you said I was just referring to specialized vehicles and large expensive equipment. For all I know they already share that between precincts and the media just makes it seem like they all have it.
One thing I’ve noticed when they talk about defunding the police, there is never a breakdown of cost. They just show the big scary number. Never a breakdown on the cost of salaries, insurance/ benefits, standard vehicles use with maintenance and gas, and so on. They make it seem like every dollar goes towards weapons and militarization
@Spetsnaz , yeah I think all that sounds reasonable enough. Sadly too many are trying to make defund the police as a stepping stone to abolish the police.
I think in order to better get the idea you’ve expressed out we would need to focus on reforming the police. Since adding new departments and reallocating funds isn’t the same as defunding. Plus I think at this stage too many hear defund the police and immediately assume you’re one of ones trying to abolish it. It’s just got an overall negative reaction now
@Commander Wolffe, there’s literally video evidence of it happening every couple days. Shut your mouth and open your eyes
@Spetsnaz , thanks for the link to the article, I’ll check it out.
@Spetsnaz , I totally agree, it would be better to have a SW or mental heath professional respond to something like that. But that, my friend, opens up a whole other can of worms. Family Services is a VERY underfunded, understaffed, underpaid agency. So yeah, maybe divert some money to them, and have them bolster the PD. Have the police just go for scene safety until things have calmed. The system definitely needs and overhaul.
@Natural Sarcasm , well, you know the media! They’d lead you to believe cops are doing traffic enforcement in armored vehicles! (Which tbh would be frickin hilarious to see!) Personally when I hear “defund the police” I think of staffing cuts. Less officers on the street, vac and sick days going unfilled, not as many officers for special events....stuff like that. When I hear “abolish the police” all I can think of is...good luck, let me know how that works out for you. You’re spot on with the funding break down too. They always make it seem like all the money goes to guns, ammo, and tanks. Payroll and befits probably make up the biggest chunk, then I’d guess vehicle purchases and maintenance, computer and radio purchase and maintenance....you get the idea. Guns and ammo are “non perishable” items, and departments need to spend a ton of money on them.
@DaSchlappah, lol can you imagine getting pulled over by a tank. I bet EVERYONE is compliant when I tank rolls up
@Spetsnaz , so I read the news report of the incident. I’d be interested to see the body cam footage. From what I’ve read, yeah,in my opinion,they probably should’ve used a less lethal option. But again nobody has seen footage yet, and it’s easy to armchair quarterback. Glad to hear that he didn’t die!
@Natural Sarcasm , (depresses cannon barrel towards rear windshield) “please keep your hands on the wheel and don’t make any sudden movements” (ten minutes later officer arrives at the window)”whew, sorry about how long it took me to get here, climbing outta that thing sucks. Just wanted you to know, you have a taillight out. Have a nice day”.
This would have been funnier if you spoke English.
He ain’t laugh..?
@TheBigJ, it’s true, he ain’t laugh, he’s an officer of the law.
the english language was the only thing killed in this post
Well the tension that comes next...
This is why nobody should listen to the news.
I call bullshït, most definitely didn’t happen.
This made me laugh harder than I have in a while
What have we learned?? The news lies about pretty much everything, stop listening to their propaganda
The difference is that there’s actual evidence of the latter 🤣
All I read was straight facts
He ain’t laugh? Come on dawg, use your words......correctly.