At this rate, the people themselves will be the downfall of this country, not the president
@Yamisilaas , judging by the history of some of the world's great empires, that's a very likely possibility
@Yamisilaas , this guy gets it.
@Yamisilaas , Totally agree!
@Yamisilaas , Was this not what was always expected?
@Yamisilaas , I for one think that's a good thing. This country should have died 100 years ago. Piggybacking off of what Whole Inn Juan said, countries as large as the US don't usually last for more than 200 years without either ending or completely restructuring.
That's what bothers me. The protestors yell "love Trumps hate" then stand outside Trump Tower saying "we hate you." You're fighting what you deem as hate with your own hate. They're no better than the man they're protesting
@Deer Jesus, its honestly disgusting. Especially since most of what they about him are straight up lies
@dr brain, well a lot of it is reaction to sound bites from speeches. The fact they exist at all is disconcerting. But, it's important for activists to be self-aware and truly represent the cause they profess to be representing
@Deer Jesus, the sound bites are distorted. Like he said all Mexicans are criminals, no, he didn't say that. But these "peaceful" liberals riot because they lost. They are worse then Trump.
@Oujosh29, Thats a bit of a stretch, if he said all mexicans are criminals in front of millions of people in an interview, then he said it, they arent distorted or forged, at most they are taken out of context.
@dr brain, this picture is intentionally misleading. It is from Ferguson riots in May 2015. The poster has placed a clinton logo on it, falsely implying that this happened recently. It is the type of lie typical of revisionists. Here's the link: https://jtf.org/angry-ferguson-protesters-they-promised-us-5000-a-month/
@abecedarian, i knew that cause i remember seeing this during that and honestly im more sure that most of the protesters are anarchists that are just trying to cause havoc. But i have seem some worrisome stuff like them trying to get rid of the electoral college or attacking peope
@Deer Jesus, What they're doing is an embrassment to this nation which calls itself the leader of democracy.
@dr brain, I personally think the protests are stupid, although people have the 1st amendment right to protest (peacefully). IMHO if they wanted a different outcome, they should have gotten out more voters on election day. Now it is time to unite behind our president-elect and move forward. That is how our democracy is supposed to work.
@Basil Fawlty, this pic is from Ferguson riots 18 months ago.
@abecedarian, i agree and i think most people also feel that way
@abecedarian, yes I'm aware. I was responding to deer jesus' comment about the current riots
@Deer Jesus, Media playing both sides making Trump to see the absolute worst when it may not be as bad.(and I am by no means a Trump supporter) and they are showing these protest as if they are done by the same group. The people rioting are not really apart of the black lives matter movement. Don't get me wrong some of these people say they represent black lives matter but don't know anything about the actual movement.
@Deer Jesus, that's what you call war bro
@Deer Jesus, not all protesters take place in the riots, if you use that sort of logic i could say that all trump supporters are neo nazis and klan members, but that's not true either.
@CentaurianHalfie, i didn't use the word riot but i agree that all those participating cannot be generalized into rioutous anarchists. Honestly, most are acting out of fear. They feel attacked and threatened. These are all legitimate reasons to hold protests. My problem comes up when they are doing so with contradictory, even hypocritical messages. Not to mention they're protesing a fair election. Protest the issues, not the office
@Deer Jesus, fair enough
@Pious Augustus, but he didn't say that... he said that illegal immigrants do bring those things, not that they all are rapists/criminals.
@Deer Jesus, Hating bigotry is not the same as being a bigot.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , i didn't claim they were bigots, just that they are contradicting themselves with their own messages
@Deer Jesus, You said they were the same as a bigot... I'm not sure what else that could mean. But anyway how are they contradicting themselves?
@KeKesUHaulFacility , i said they were no better than the man they were protesting due to both parties using hate to achieve their goals. That is also how they contradict themselves. In the example of the NY protests, protestors carried signs saying "Love Trumps Hate." The message is clear: Trump=hate. Therefore, fight him by supporting all different types of people, who he is portrayed as hateful toward. In other words, love. Yet, the same night, they marched on Trump Tower in NYC and chanted "we hate you" toward it. By doing so, they combatted Trump's hate with their own hate. They profess to fight fire with water while they actually use fire.
@abecedarian, the point still stands. There are riots going on.
@RogueKnight, in Portland yes. But that doesn't give people the right to post deceitful images to enrage people further.
@Deer Jesus, The only way you're right is if they aren't showing love to the marginalized people that Trump attacked, and they overwhelmingly are. I can love POC, immigrants, Muslims and LGBTQ+ people and hate Trump and his supporters because they wish harm on us. That doesn't make me as bad as trump. I feel like it makes me pragmatic tbh, I'm not tryna get harassed and attacked off some "take the high road" nonsense. Do you know how dangerous it is out here for us?
@abecedarian, if it is good enough for the main stream media, it's good enough for FP. :-)
In all seriousness, the point of the image stands, whether the pic is legit or not. The left claims to be a group of tolerance but are often the first to have violent protests or riots. This didn't happen when Obama was elected either time...
Yes, the should have found a picture from Oakland or Portland from a post election riot, but it doesn't nullify the point being made. That is all I'm saying.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , no, i actually don't know how dangerous it is (that wasn't sarcasm, I actually don't). Regardless, you have identified a massive hole in my argument. But, please understand 99% of Trump supporters (which I am not) do not want to harm you. He won mostly for non-establishment practices, business acumen, and perceived honesty/frankness, not really for KKK support and such. He can't steal your civil rights (checks and balances ensure that) so there's no point in expecting him to do so. That being said, i understand the fear from the rhetoric disseminated to the public from various sources. My next question is this: what do these protests hope to accomplish, exactly?
@Deer Jesus, I thought of a funny response a few comments into this thread, but kept scrolling to find it was a long serious one. Hate when that happens.
@DividedAlliance, let's hear it anyway! We could use some levity
@Deer Jesus, to be honest I got so into the thread that I completely forgot lol It's funny, politics bores me, but I love reading other people argue about it.
@DividedAlliance, i mean this one wasn't particularly aggressive but still probably as reasonable as this can be on an anonymous Internet app
@Deer Jesus, The point of the protests, ANY protest really, is so the afflicted can begin to be heard. To put pressure on the establishment to listen to us. You can't very well ignore 300+ people blocking a highway or a major road. And if you want to know how bad things are getting for us just look up post election harassment stories. Women are getting their hijabs ripped off, people are painting hate speech on public property, calling black people everything but children of God, it's crazy! Even if trumps hatred wasn't the reason he won, it emboldened other hate groups that seemed to be dying out. You can take someone's rights away without legislation.
@Deer Jesus, I don't know if that makes than as bad as him, but it certainly does make them hypocrites.
@abecedarian, They are stupid, I live in Portland, Oregon and they've been blocking the roads and freeways the past three days. They throw crap at the police. Break storefront windows, did millions in damage to their own city, destroyed about a dozen cars from a dealership, and taunted drivers on the road. It's insane.
@KeKesUHaulFacility , a lot of those attacks have turned out to be made up, and their are plenty of attacks on pro Trumpers. People attack Trump for spreading hate and violence when they need to be looking in the mirror, because its the left attacking and rioting over a fair election. In some ways, the lefts madness is proving Trump right.
@abecedarian, to be fair, Hillary had more total votes, just not electoral
@Brickmasta8, total votes is irrelevant.
@Oujosh29, he said more people should have voted for her, and they technically did
@abecedarian, Look it up mate, this pic might not be from recently but Hillary supporters are violently rioting all over the place.
@BigfootUnibrowMan, you look it up mate, and use a non US source like bbc. There have been riots in Portland, but not "all over". And the Ferguson riots were particularly violent, and we're directed at the police. If someone is guilty of shoplifting, and the media posts a picture of a minority group holding up a store at gunpoint, that is falsely inflaming the situation. While I think the protesters are wrong, that doesn't justify over-villifying them. Trump won by a slim margin in key states, and lost the popular vote. People have a right to be upset, in a peaceful manner, but it is incumbent on both sides to support the president elect and stop looking for reasons to be divisive.
@abecedarian, you're being overdramatic. You'd only have a point if the rioters weren't flipping cars and torching stuff. Since they are, you are arguing just to argue about this.
@abecedarian, I mean I think over villifying them was the joke part about this pic. This isn't CNN its funnypics bro
@Deer Jesus, two different groups of protestors. Those saying love trumps hate are also talking to the ones who are spreading hate on their own side.
I'm not pro-Trump at all, but the people committing violent acts against his supporters and In general disgust me.
@Brickmasta8, thats wrong. Trump won both popular vote, and electoral. When you look it up on google, it does say that Hillary has more, but they didn't count michigan (which only says it's leaning red) maine (which is both red striped and blue striped) and new hampshire (which it says is leaning blue). This is all outdated information.
Stronger to-get-her put behind bars
Can we just take a moment to all be grateful to our law enforcement? Those brave men and women get painted with the broadest brush, and still go out and risk their lives for people who hate them. I know that some officers have done awful things, but so have some cashiers. Or accountants. Hell, that nice guy who brought you your milkshake at Sonic last night? He might've just finished hiding a body or something. I'm still getting my halfprice shake tomorrow. But, when an officer does something, what happens? Riots. Shootings. Revenge against an uninvolved party. Let's just try to be a bit reasonable, sometime. Not trying to rant. Sorry for the long post. And to any officers (or members of our military) who read this: thank you for your service.
Mad when Trump might protest the elections. Mad now protesting the elections.
@FightingIntheWarRoom, this pic is from Ferguson riots 18 months ago. It has nothing to do with Clinton supporters
@abecedarian, still relevant given the riots
@abecedarian, They're still destroying cities.
Want to get tased? Because that is how you get tased.
It's okay to protest but damaging property isn't going to help anyone.
Jaximum power, since this is a picture from the Ferguson riots in May 2015, you have intentionally lied by attributing it to Clinton. I'll put you down as an advocate of lies and hatred
@abecedarian, you sound more triggered than a butthurt millennial
It's funny when they say "trump is ruining America" and then this shjt happens
Stronger together unless your me. *walks to corner and cries because of crippling depression*
@notMrWonka, I an in even mad
@notMrWonka, srry I ain't even mad
@Hareld, somebody is, hence a very unnecessary down vote.😂👌
@notMrWonka, that wasn't me bro/grill
@Hareld, I know who it was. Also I'm not a bro or a grill lmao. I am a female however.
@notMrWonka, It's fine. I evened it out for you.