In their eyes, it's not racist if it attacks white people.
@Elmato, I’ve literally heard people say that you can’t be racist against white people... like... you don’t really understand what “racism” is, do you?
@Blasphemy is Fun, I don’t. Enlighten me
@commandermolander, I’m 99.999999999998918955999914474206969% sure you’re joking but just in case. An extraordinarily simple definition of racism would be the belief that one race is superior to another, along with any actions that that belief would manifest.
@Blasphemy is Fun, hypothetically, say I’m a nerdy high school kid. All thru school I have been picked on by jocks and popular kids. I’ve gotten beat up, called names etc simply because of my nerd status. Over the years I’ve grown a prejudice against jocks. Not because I feel I’m better than them but because of what a good portion of them have done to me and how they treated me.
@Blasphemy is Fun, now replace the nerd with a black person or say a Mexican. Replace the jocks with white people. Based on your definition, can you really call that racism?
@commandermolander, to imply that all 'jocks' are bullies and should be labeled and reprimanded accordingly (or charged extra cash) would be a "manifestation," as it were, of the belief that all jocks are bad people. So yes.
@commandermolander, Um yes... you’re judging others based on events perpetrated by completely different individuals. If you were beat up by 1000 separate black people and never met one nice black person, then you met a new person who happened to be black and you judged them for that, it’s racism. That 1001st person could be super cool, never done anything wrong in his life, and treat you extraordinarily well but you’re judging him because of stuff separate humans (that he has nothing to do with) did, just because he happens to share the same skin color as them. If somebody judges me because I’m white and they’ve been treated terribly their whole life by white people then I’ll feel sympathy for them but it’s still racism, I haven’t done anything wrong, in fact I’ve fought against racism and stood up for anyone who is treated unjustly but I’m being judged because I was born white.
@Doctor Walrus, to imply all jocks are bad people would be a generalization that came from a prejudice against jocks. A prejudice that started from a mistreatment of me for being different. It’s not something that came from a belief that my race is superior. So therefore it wouldn’t be racist
@Doctor Walrus, charging a specific group of people based on said prejudice would be at best, racial discrimination. Which is still bad, but also not racism, based on the definition provided
@commandermolander, depending on how you look at it, having a prejudice against jocks because of they way they treated you isnt racist - its precautionary from past experience. But to act in away that singles out someone solely for the reason that they are a jock is *inherently* an implication of difference, difference involving an assumed malicious nature. Singling jocks out as malicious *does* mean youd think nerds are superior, because 'all jocks are dicks.'
@Blasphemy is Fun, but based on the definition you gave me, racism has to do with belief that ones race is superior. I specifically stated this has nothing to do with superiority. This has to do with a prejudice that started from mistreatment.
@commandermolander, You are correct. It would be racial prejudice and potentially discrimination not racism. Still a terrible thing and similar but technically separate. My bad.
@commandermolander, Were you simply asking if I thought that was technically racism? Because my definition made it clear that it wasn’t. I was slightly thrown by your phrasing (“can you really call that racism?”) and immediately thought you were trying to justify the scenario (completely my mistake) hence my first reply. What was the point of your question though?
@commandermolander, didnt see the second reply before posting my reply - you make a fair point. It may not be racism, but certainly is racial discrimination. Neither should be acceptable, of course.
@Blasphemy is Fun, I agree, it’s definitely bad. Discrimination and prejudice are things that lead to hate. But the point I was making and the reason I used that analogy is because in America white people are pretty much the “big men on campus” and have mistreated a lot of people based on race or other differences. Because of that there have been a lot of prejudices against white people. Many of those prejudices have been carried for generations a lot have been formed more recently and I feel like most, “not all” , stemmed from mistreatment by white people. It’s just a cycle of hate, and it sucks
@commandermolander, Yeah I’d agree with all that, except I think the cycle will end or at least tone down a lot in the future. We have to take a step back and realize that real active racism was commonplace in America until the 70s and that was only 40 some years ago... less than half a lifetime. Some people who experienced real racism are still alive and some people have been born into a society that they believe to be equal, this creates a lot of difficult, uncomfortable, and often times unfair situations. I truly believe that we are in a transitional period right now (which isn’t great for us but is better than the past), give it 70 more years or so and I think we will have achieved decently true equality. That’s just my opinion though.
@commandermolander, We have to be the ones to plant the trees that we will never experience the shade of, I just wish that everyone could realize that and get along, unfortunately some people still bare scars and some people are still taught to hate. Some days I feel like we’re progressing so far and others I feel like we’ve barely moved...
@Blasphemy is Fun, I honestly don’t know where we are regarding racism. I mean obviously not the same as it was as far as segregation and slavery but it’s definitely not close to going away. There are still kkk rallies, just yesterday I saw a video of some elderly white ladies telling a BK manager that he’s in America and should stop speaking Spanish or go back to Mexico (he was Puerto Rican), and Im constantly see stuff with like hs girls recording themselves in black face, using slang, throwing gang signs.
@Blasphemy is Fun, I do know as long as people (all races) keep trying to make everything an issue of racism, actual racism isn’t going anywhere.
@commandermolander, Yeah, when I go online I see racist stuff constantly, some say it’s jokes, some are just blatantly racist but either way if you truly weren’t racist then you would realize where we are as a society and not post that stuff. I live in Washington state on the west side and have never actually seen racism in person (I’m sure it’s here but I think it’s a lot less prevalent). I was in a store once waiting for help and a middle aged black lady walked up next to me, finally an employee came to help me and she yelled at him for being racist and not helping her first, even though I had been there for 5 minutes before she even arrived... Maybe I’m just naive to think we’ll get a lot better in 70-100 years but I see a lot more positivity and less divides in the younger generations, so I’m hopeful. I do agree that racism is still heavily prevalent, which honestly is hard for me because I’m 25 and I was ignorant enough to think we had beat it until I was like 14...
@Blasphemy is Fun, so it's been a while since I actually read the definition of the word racist, but I don't think the actual definition involves superiority. It is based on making a general statement of people based in race. As an example, I am a white man. If I say "Asians are smarter than whites" I am not saying I am superior but I am being racist. Hopefully that all makes sense, I'm not always good at getting my ideas out :/
@kakarot86, if you think that Asians are smarter than whites, you believe that one race has superior intelligence than another. Depending on how you take that and the actual definition, that could be interpreted as racism, prejudice, stereotyping, or profiling.
@Blasphemy is Fun, Very true. And please dont think I was trying to attack you or fight you. Just was trying to remember the exact definition of the word. Sorry if I came across mean.
@Blasphemy is Fun, I went and looked into it and you were correct and I was remembering wrong, the definition does include feelings of superiority. I'm sorry good sir.
@kakarot86, haha I take no offense. I’m always open to debate and opposition as long as the other person is polite. Either I’m right or I learn something new, it’s a win win.
@Blasphemy is Fun, it happens all the time. I recently told someone he’s being racist towards a white girl and he said he couldn’t be a racist cause he’s black. It was cringe worthy
@commandermolander, implying that someone is terrible for being from a specific group of people implies you believe you are better.
I want to say this hurt sales, but I know there's a lot of people who wouldn't have gone that went specifically because of this. Yes, I'm referring to stupid white people as well.
@TheStarHawk, this actually did hurt their sales quite a bit, especially since it caused them to lose one of the artists who was going to play there because she was from a biracial family and named the album she was going to be performing after her white grandmother. This obviously also loses them sales for people who were planning to go mainly because of this artist.
@TheStarHawk, i think you mean cvcks.
@Marida Cruz, I remember seeing the headline of an article about that. I didn't actually read said article but I feel reading a single sentence on the topic makes me qualified to be an expert on it
@theshadosnipe, One does not need to be expert to recognize racism, nor to realize that racism is bad and will hurt sales.
@Aegis Heart, eh... to say that discrimination hurts sales isn't always the case. Isn't chick-filet or whatever the restaurant is famously anti-gay and super religious?
@theshadosnipe, I did say racism, and their discrimination has hurt their sales before.
@Aegis Heart, fair, although is there a lot of prior racist acts to this extent? From what I know most companies try to at least pretend to get along with everyone
@theshadosnipe, I mean, yes, theres been a lot of racist acts by businesses, most of which were rescinded or killed the businesses.
@TheStarHawk, As of a week ago, they’d sold 70 tickets (out of 200).
@theshadosnipe, just a quick comment about chick filet. The owners of the company are Christian yes, but the company is not anti gay, it has no anti gay policy or rules and serves any and all customers who wish to buy its product. The reason they have been labeled anti gay is because people are prejudice against anyone with a religious belief and assumes they hate gays.
Why is this an outrage? We all know the colored aren’t people
@Erinjagerbombastic, yes, finally!
Maybe the promoter should have charged black people 3/5 the price they charge white people
Wait, that's illegal
Who even thought this was a good idea though?
I just looked it up and they changed the base ticket price to $20 for all people, and non-POC are suggested to donate extra
Racism at the ticket booth
How do non-people buy tickets
America youre strange
@80think08, it says UK
Uk youre strange
@xxTrashBoatxx, the event the article is referring to is in Detroit.
Love the title of this ♡