Steve Rogers checking the new timeline after he stays in the past at the end of Endgame.
New Cap did nothing wrong
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@Reach4God, I mean, he did brutally murder a guy, but he was foreign so…shít you right
@Reach4God, He doesn't have America's ass.
@Reach4God, new cap failed to truly follow and understand Steve’s legacy. Man obviously has some major issues going on given the way he acts. Sam proved himself to be the correct person to take up the mantle, first to himself, then to the people.
@CaptainCrunchyCvnt, i never took much offense to him killing an enemy combatant (who also happened to be part of a mass-murdering terror cell)
@Anonymous Jack III, that's probably the best answer I've heard and will ever hear.
@LorienNine, a 3X medal of Honor receipient sounds pretty worthy to me. Sam's veey first action was to literally give up the shield.
@Reach4God, man didn’t feel up to the task. It’s a heavy burden, just like how he immediately said he wouldn’t take the serum given the chance. Walker was a broken man fighting his own demons. While there’s a place for people willing do cross the line, they can’t be the symbol Steve was. It’s like if Bucky took the mantle. He’s far too jaded at this point to do it justice. Same for Walker. Didn’t even let Sam talk the leader down when it was working.
@Reach4God, not to mention as you said killing a terrorist is fine, there is a major difference between killing in the line of duty and what Walker did. He had him dead to rights, could’ve knocked him out with one punch and put him through proper channels. Obviously knowing the ending of the show we know he would’ve ended up escaping. Walker didn’t know, and let rage lead him to killing a beaten opponent. I’ve never been on the heroes shouldn’t kill bandwagon, but killing someone who’s been beaten is definitely a step too far for someone claiming to be a hero, let alone continuing Steve’s legacy
@LorienNine, I said Walker did nothing wrong. I never mentioned him being Captain America, though I don't nrcessarily think he's a bad fit. All the heroes have done 'objectionable' things in moments of rage, so if Walker killing a terrorist is what he does when he's mad, I can't be that mad.
@Reach4God, yeah but my point is he didn’t kill a terrorist. He murdered a beaten foe. Whatever angle you spin, captain America or not, that’s not great for people to look up too. Yes, some people would leave the world better if they were dead. Yes, some of the heroes have done crappy things based on emotion(civil war). But at the end of the day, Walker took the shield, the symbol synonymous with the country itself at this point, and murdered a man in cold blood. Giving up the shield as Sam did at the beginning is not necessarily the wrong call either. Sometimes it’s better to retire a good thing before it becomes stained, which Walter managed to do real quick. I’ll admit I was very meh about Sam and the way he handled things at the beginning. But by the end he really showed what Steve saw in him
@LorienNine, I don't think I could ever see that as a 'murder' nor could I agree that it was 'in cold blood', it was an enemy combatant killed with the only weapon Walker had on hand (for some reason Marvel hates guns). I think a quick decapitation is probably the best way to go in the terrorist's case. I was and still am pretty meh on Sam, though admittedly it's been a while and I don't remember much of what he did in the show.
@Reach4God, I just binged it the last couple days that’s why it’s so fresh for me. A man surrendering is no longer a combatant. Hell Walker was even enhanced at that point so he was in little danger after beating him. Now if he had been trying to stop him escaping, threw the shield and like killed him there that’s one thing. He had the man dead to rights. That’s a murder. There’s a reason we have trials because no one person can be judge, jury, and executioner. Again, in a fight is one thing, but to a downed opponent that poses little threat at that point? That’s a line that shouldn’t be crossed. He should’ve been a prisoner at that point. I guarantee if it was Steve he would’ve taken a swift punch to knock him out and brought him in, even if Sam or Bucky had just been killed.