"And then I banged your mom"
But, Skyrim IS for the Nords...
@Massive Liar, but the Stormcloak Nords are almost as bad as the Thalmor with their racism. The Thalmor see the men and beast races as inferior and enslave them or force them into servitude, and the Stormcloaks, or at least the important ones, see the elves and beast races as inferior and force them into servitude or poverty. Really, the Empire are the only decent major power in all of Skyrim.
@Massive Liar, Empire or Bust.
@Sybil Reisz, No, the Stormcloaks really aren't like that. Yes, they have a Nord superiority complex, but they don't oppress or enslave the other races. I'm assuming you're saying that because of Windhelm? Those other races (Argonians and Dunmer) are poor, not oppressed. Also, the Argonians work for the East Empire Trading Company. The Dunmer are refugees who fled Morrowind, and wouldn't have had anything when they fled. Yes, there are some racist Nords (especially Windhelm, but there's also some racist Dunmer - read Dunmer of Skyrim) but the Grey quarter is the poor part of the city, where refugees would live. A vote for the Empire is a vote for the Thalmor, because the empire has no spine, and the Thalmor get to act across the empire with impunity. I don't care what you believe, elves shouldn't get to haul you off and torture/kill you for it.
@Massive Liar, but the argonians aren't allowed to enter the city because of their race and the dark elves are openly threatened in the street. If that's not oppression I don't know what is.
@Massive Liar, like I said, most of the IMPORTANT Stormcloaks ARE racist. And while I concede some of youre points, I do not concede that the Empire is spineless. There is much evidence to suggest the Empire hate the Thalmor just as much, if not MORE than the Stormcloaks. However, the Empire has seen what the Thalmor are capable of, and know that without some sort of advantage, they stand no chance at a head on battle. Not only that, but the Empire is several countries large, and Skyrim is but one country, one that is in disarray after the civil war, no matter who wins. The only thing preventing the Thalmor from attacking Skyrim with their full might is an already shaky peace treaty with the Empire. Take away the Empire, and the Thalmor have no reason NOT to conquer Skyrim. Now, this in mind, remember where Skyrim is in relation to Cyrodil, where the Capitol of the Empire rests, and you'll understand why the Empire can't afford to lose Skyrim.
@Sybil Reisz, as someone who plays as a wood elf, screw the Stormcloaks!
@Sybil Reisz, The empire didn't have the spine to actually win the war. They could've driven the elves all the way out of Cyrodiil, and not have signed the White-Gold Concordant, which is why the civil war started. And there's a lot of empire in between Skyrim and the Aldmeri Dominion. Both Cyrodiil and Hammerfell are in between. If the empire really can't afford to lose Skyrim, then they shouldn't have signed a treaty outlawing their chief and favorite deity, and shouldn't let the Thalmor have their way in a province that they couldn't even reach during the war. The empire didn't take care of its people, so why should those people still support the empire? Also, The Aldmeri Dominion (who started the war) is comprised of the Argonians of Black Marsh, the Khajiit of Elseweyr, the Bosmer of Valenwood, and the Aldmer of the Summerset Isles. All these races waging war on the human empire with a racist superiority (mostly from the Aldmer) is gonna generate a fair amount of racism, right -
@Massive Liar, or wrong. Ulfric is not racist against the non-Nords of Windhelm, he's simply too busy fighting for what he believes is best for his people and province. If his underlings are racist, then that's not his fault. But honestly, I hate the Aldmer for how the Thalmor behave, and the way that they look down upon everyone else, especially humans.
@Lord Commander Snow, an elf is an elf! Kill the elves! Skyrim for the Nords!
@Massive Liar, Ulfric is in it for ulfric, he may not say it, but he is a racist, otherwise those who look up to him wouldn't be so racist. He murdered a little boy to wage war against the only chance he had to stand up for something. He's the reason that the empire has to crack down on Talos worship anyways. Alvor in river wood talks about everyone still having a little shrine of Talos be fore Ulfric started making a big fuss about it. And as far as the empire goes, you can't win every war, they did what they thought was best to avoid anhialation, where nobody could then stand up to the Thalmor. That doesn't make them spineless, it means they have common sense, they certainly mean to fight back in the near future. And if you're going to play the "not all stormcloaks are racist" card, then I'll do the same by saying not all of the people in those races support the thalmlor
@Ima6pack, What little boy? Do you mean Torygg? Because he was a grown man. And anything in the "Bear of Markarth" is propaganda. And yes, the Markarth incident is the reason for the rebellion. Ulfric got screwed by the empire. No, not all the empire's subjects support the Thalmor, but they sure aren't doing much to stop them. No, you can't win every war, but the empire had the strength to push the elves back, they had just retaken the Imperial City. Titus Mede II took the easy way out. Hammerfell stood up on its own against the elves, and the Imperial City was recaptured, so I don't see how they couldn't stand up against the Aldmeri Dominion. Except that they lacked the spine to keep driving the elves back and signed a deal that they knew the Nords of Skyrim wouldn't abide.
@Massive Liar, FOR THE NOOORRRDSSS!!!!!!!
@Massive Liar, I suppose we will just have to disagree on this subject. Arguing in circles won't get us anywhere
@Ima6pack, I can agree to that.
@Sybil Reisz, there is a difference between racism and taking pride in ones race. The Thalmor want to exterminate everyone except their race. The Stormcloaks aren't racist they just want to take back their home. All of that racist banter is just what every country goes through in times of war or revolution.
@Gay For Oberyn, no, there are most definitely racist Stormcloaks. Or have you not been to Windhelm?
@Sybil Reisz, I have. And like I said every country during the time of revolt or war WILL experience some sort of racism or nationalism. The only nord I'd pass as a real racist is galmars brother.
@Gay For Oberyn, so you're going to ignore the terrible living conditions of the dark elves, living conditions which they have to stay in by order of the jarl? And who was the Jarl of Windhelm again? Oh, that's right, the leader of the Stormcloaks. And let's not forget the beast races, who have the least sway in the war of anyone. All of the beast races in Windhelm are underplayed, underfed dock workers, who have no visible living space of any kind, and they themselves say that it's the only work they can get in Windhelm. You can't blame that on the war. That's entirely the fault of the people of Windhelm, and nobody else.
@Sybil Reisz, the only other beast race is the Argonian race, you got me on that one, I haven't looked into why they're being treated that way so I can't make an argument for that. Khajiit are turned away by everyone even the imperial owned cities.
@Sybil Reisz, as for the dark elves those are all refugees, running from the volcanic eruption I think (the exact reason escapes me at the moment). They could have easily been denied entrance into the city. If a homeless man approached my door and asked if he could have shelter for the foreseeable future, I wouldn't exactly bring him in and give him a room that my family is using. I'd give him permission to crash in the garage though and I'll provide him with some blankets and what not. (Sorry if that sounds cruel in any way I don't mean it to be. Most people would turn away the homeless man I would at least provide something)
@Sybil Reisz, and the smarter thing for ulfric to do WOULD have been to shut the door on the refugees, its wartime and those refugees aren't going to aid them in any way shape or form. So he now has dead weight to carry.
@Gay For Oberyn, the refugees were there before the war.
@Sybil Reisz, all the more reason to help out the people who took them in
@Gay For Oberyn, Except they weren't "taken in". They came to Skyrim and had no help given them except that they gave themselves. In fact, I think the most help any of Skyrim's locals have given to refugees is actually Maven Blackbriar, who freely gives jobs to all races, so long as they do what she wants.
I laughed a little too hard....and by that I meant that breathed more air through my nose than normal
He is the immortalization of every teammate I've had in any video game, ever.
(Gives a shotgun to the face)
M'aiq disagrees with this racism. He feels hurt.
Brent Rambo is my hero
What is this gif? Is it from anything? I like it... like i really like it... alot.
Brent calls the noob bjtches f@gatron. Good for you Brent! Skyrim etiquette, simple stuff!
Is this a thing? This should be a thing.