Surprised he isn’t mindlessly quoting Spongebob
@seeUpee, he’s already halfway there, halfway there, halfway there, halfway there *record player skips*
@Natural Sarcasm ,
* record player scratches
LIVING ON A PRAYER
if only biden was that clever
This is the kind of political memes I come here for.
Liberals: if even 1 life is saved then its worth the complete destruction of the economy.
Also liberals: WHY WONT EVIL BAD ORANGE MAN DIE ALREADY!!!
@CocoasBro, yeah it’s not only stupid to wish the leader of our country would die but immoral as a person to hope someone would die based off politics. The extremists really showed their true colors
@CocoasBro, There's an older couple I shoot the sh!t with that hate Trump and won't stop mentioning it. When they found out he had Big Rona, the wife said if he dies she'll be glad. I told them I'm not gonna wish death on anyone based on political reasons because I'm not a sociopath
@ptitty1231, I never discuss politics in reality. Its all i need for an unhinged leftist to slash my tires, or burn my house down or try to get me fired from my job because i dont want to indulge in hating people based on race like they do. Id give you the same advice these people are crazy and will do everything in their power to destroy you.
@CocoasBro, thankfully they're only unhinged when drunk. I've made it a habit to bring my earbuds when things get political. I can't count the times Gang-Plank Galleon saved me from a tense situation
@Natural Sarcasm , its all political theater. All hypocrisy with the left nowadays. Everything they once stood for they now stand in opposition to while pretending to still stand for it. Its very clear none of them question the ideas of their cult very often.
@CocoasBro, yeah the MAGA hat meltdowns are freakin crazy. I thought trump derangement syndrome was an exaggeration til I see how these people literally attack others if they think they’re trump supporters.
It’s not surprising why so many democrats are talking about voting republican this time around when their leaders are supporting these violent fringe extremists
@Natural Sarcasm , TRUMP 2020!
They moving the debate from Miami to Nashville...
my neck of the woods!!!! I will be so close, that is if they still doing it.
@CocoasBro, I think the majority wanted Hitler dead too but that didn't make them bad people.
@MrLogg, you really think trump is as bad as someone that tried to commit genocide? Also hitler was actually loved by he’s people at the time, how do you think he got away with so much?
@seeUpee, Sh!t!! They are!?!? I'm still in south Texas!! I gotta buy a flight home for this one.
@ptitty1231, right because the people who wish death on anyone for any reason should be shot......sadly that is like every single trump supporter....so who's got a gun?
@MrLogg, The fact that you think trump and hitler are even remotely similar is what im talking about. Unhinged.
@eksat, I’m very confused by your statement, you realize the person you’re responding to said they didn’t wish death on anyone right? And who exactly are trump supporters hoping would die?
@CocoasBro, just saying that wanting one person who clearly isn't supporting the "common" people off the planet doesn't say that you are bad person.
@Natural Sarcasm , it sure looks like he's not working for the peoples best unless he has something to gain from it. It's his intrest first.
@MrLogg, wtf are you saying? Who are you quoting? Rephrase what you just said.
@eksat, no they shouldn't be shot. And I can't wait to tell my friend who voted for Hillary that he's a Trump supporter now because he likes to go shooting at ranges and carries a 9mm. Because that makes sense
@MrLogg, first off there are literally no politicians that don’t have some kind of agenda.
Secondly trump has done a lot of good for people. Before COVID unemployment was at a record low. He’s been nominated for 3 noble peace prizes for his historically ground breaking peace treaties in the Middle East. He pushed the bill that got everyone in the US $1200 dollars to help during the shut down, a 3 trillion dollar deal. He’s currently fighting big pharma with in order to make medication more affordable to the average person.
The list goes on. How exactly has he not helped people and deserves death?
@CocoasBro, your first comment was about libs being hypocrites wanting to save lifes but wouldn't mind getting rid of Trump, right? Just saying that his not making the country great for the majority of the population which should be the main objective. And therefore I don't see it as hypocrisy wanting him gone. He's not Hitler but there are a bit too many similarities.
@MrLogg, Trump has done more for us than the last three presidents combined. Hes gotten us out of iran the only president in the last 4 presidencies to not go balls deep into the middle east. Unemployment was record low before we shut down the economy and forced Unemployment up. Tell me again about the similarities between trump and hitler.
@MrLogg, You know what man im done. Im tired of having this same argument over and over again. You can go on believing that trump is litterally hitler all you want, i cant change your mind. Have fun in your misery.
@ptitty1231, my mom absolutely hates trump. I mean despises him, and she was even talking to me about how she hopes he gets better. I wish people would stop using political party as an excuse to be an @ss
@Natural Sarcasm , wouldn't say no one but sure very few.
Not be able to condemn all forms of white supremacy, not taking responsibility for people dying, spreading misinformation (intentionally or not a president should know) trying to force states to reopen while far from safe, among some. The constant lying about things he have said or done, there are videos and recordings of him doing/saying so. How did it work out for the farmers, haven't heard anything recently?
@MrLogg, he not only condemned white supremacy but all forms of violent racism many times, you have to watch the whole video. As far as the debate they were trying to get him to condemn proud boys which isn’t a white supremacist group and in fact has a minority leader.
He wants at risk people to stay isolated but open up businesses for the general public. Giving people the option to go back to work and help restore the economy. It’s not like he’s forcing people to not wear masks or not social distance.
Idk about the constant lying you’ll have to be more specific. But pretty much all politicians lie all the time. The ones you don’t think are lying are the best liars
@shake n blake, I wish more liberals and Democrats were like that. It’s fine to not want someone in office but hope they die? It’s just crazy
@MrLogg, he has condemned it, over 15 times. But morons with TDS keep asking the same idiotic effing question. But Biden is let off the hook for “Antifa is just an idea” wile literally burning looting and murdering. Fûcking deranged and willfully ignorant.
@big freedom, could be because it's a short for anti fachist not an organization? He has made statements but when asked directly or related to an event he's struggling.
@Natural Sarcasm , he has said that the governors should open or there will be consequences because he's the president and the should obey him. Not the exact words.
The easy ones first, the wall being paid by Mexico, not have time golfing, showing his taxes, covid-19 being a hoax, all the fine people he doesn't know when they get caught or exposed, or say something negative about him, everything he is the best of better than everyone else, Daniels..., there are tons of videos of him claiming to never have said things with clips of him saying it.
Sure he's made things happen as well but I can't see it weighing up the his other sides, but to be fair it's not just him it's many in his crew. And many of them have been dismissed or are convicted, that is not a good sign.
@MrLogg, so to cut an end to the back and forth. None of what you listed is severe enough to condemn a man to death or to celebrate his death. Nor have any of your examples made him look like hitler
I can understand people not liking him and wanting him out of office but you’ve yet to give any reason why someone would reasonably want him dead.
@Natural Sarcasm , to discredit all media except the ones that support you is what Hitler did, by spreading fear amongst the people and sending violent militia that doesn't care who they are shooting at also similar to what he did.
@MrLogg, he doesn’t discredit all media mostly just cnn and rightly so. And what militia??? You realize the violence in the US now is caused by far left extremists in Democrat run states.
However, trying to silence opinions that don’t fit your narrative and attempt to unify everyone under a banner of hate is something the far left is doing which is very nazi like. Trying to focus all hate on trump as a scapegoat(which hitler did to the Jews)and being the leaders in cancel culture in order to minimize outside ideas makes trumps opposition more nazi like than he is
@Natural Sarcasm , from what I've seen he called everyone printing anything negative about him fake news. The majority of protesters has not been violent but still they get gassed and shot at. Condemning the entire protests, a right by the constitution, also a warning sign. Investigate and go after the ones actually breaking the law. Yes it is a messy situation and therefore more important that you handle it well which in my opinion hasn't been the case. Wanting fair/equal treatment, health care for everyone isn't really a far left issue. I would say that the whole scale has moved more right, the right is further right and the left is just little left of the centrer.
@MrLogg, there’s a difference between criticism and silencing. Trump isn’t trying to shut down the news.
Even if the “majority” of protests are non violent we can’t just gloss over a billion dollars in damages and dozens of murders.
No one is against fair and equal treatment and I never brought up healthcare except to point out how trump is trying to make it better.
And no we’ll just have to agree to disagree as I think the left is much further left and the right has remained virtually unchanged
@Natural Sarcasm , except scam callers, they deserve a long drawn out covid death
@Natural Sarcasm , its been a good conversation, but it seems like we are very far apart each other in views of the presidency so should we end it at that?
@MrLogg, yeah I think at this point we both know we aren’t going to change the others mind. It was a good conversation though
@shake n blake, i agree i honestly can't stand trump and the lies, that doesn't mean i wish death for the guy. Just cuz i dont want him in office doesn't mean i think he should die.
@MrLogg, yeah. Sure. And I belong to the anti-badguy group. We punch babies in the face. But it’s right there in our name. We’re against bad guys. Better not ever say anything bad about us, because our group is literally against bad guys. You are literally too stupid to insult
@MrLogg, keep repeating “mostly peaceful”. When I hit you in the head with a baseball bat, it will be “mostly peaceful”. It will be peaceful when I pick up the bat, and when I pull the bat back and when I swing the bat. All 100% peaceful. It’ll just be .01% violent when the bat makes contact with your incredibly soft skull. Other than that fraction of a second, it was entirely peaceful.
@Natural Sarcasm , that was one of the top five most civilized discussions I seen on here. Well done!
@seeUpee, thanks! Yeah I try my best to keep it civil, it helps when the other side has the same goal lol
@big freedom, what I'm getting from your comments is that you consider busting people up for having a different opinion is the way to do it. So you support violent protesters? Or is it just when you do it?
@MrLogg, I think the first comment is in reference to blm and that because of its name you’re demonized if you’re openly against. They’ll say things like “oh you don’t care about black lives then” when in reality you might not support the organization for other reasons. Me personally I don’t support cause the hundreds of millions they’ve raised went to funding democratic campaigns instead of back into the community. Yet despite me wanting to better the community I’d be called a racist for not supporting them.
The second comment seems more like it’s coming out of frustration. When it comes to the protestors and rioters (keeping them separate) it becomes frustrating to hear people try to focus on the majority and seemingly ignore the violence that happen in the minority. While I think it’s important to point out the ones acting peacefully I also think we’re doing ourselves a disservice when ignoring the violent ones. As it’s not just a little violence but entire blocks getting leveled
@Natural Sarcasm , might be the case but it sounds like he want to have a sving at me? No violent act should be ignored, some might be the only way to get heard but that just tells that there is other things that are wrong within the ways things are handled.
@MrLogg, I mean he might lol but I think it was just a metaphor
@Natural Sarcasm , you do know a lot of the German people hated Hitler? He took their guns when he got into power so his “people” couldn’t fight back and overthrow him when he let his true intentions be known
@MrSatan, I’m sure a number of them did sadly they did not make up the majority as there wasn’t near enough infighting for that to be true. Germany was a powerhouse during the war and they wouldn’t have put up that much of a fight if they were also fighting amongst themselves. Coming out of WWI in massive debt + the hyperinflation, moral couldn’t have been lower so Hitler providing a scapegoat in the Jews and pushing back against the nations that destroyed them got him all the loyalty he needed
@Natural Sarcasm , you are too freaking cultured!!!! Is funny bc growing up back In Argentina it was like: Germany bad! Yet we kept it hush on that new neighbor that speaks German. And that was it... They more involved in the Falkland Islands which was pretty fvcked up...
@seeUpee, if I remember right I think a good number of the nazi higher ups that managed to slip past the allies ended up hiding out all over South America. I could be misremembering though
@MrLogg, way to completely miss the point. Of course it would be hard for you to get, with that incredibly soft skull and all.
@MrLogg, no dolt, I do not want to take a swing at you. I thought that you may possibly be able to see such a simple metaphor for what it is... but like I said, you’re a dolt.
@Natural Sarcasm , South America! Maybe Brazil but they all went to Argentina... I’m telling ya! We had one around the corner... no one said a thing! I remember riding my bike and the guy would lock his door... he didn’t bother us so we didn’t bother him. I swear everyone was too chicken to bring it up. Wasn’t till the Internet came around that people started prosecuting them. I was long gone and what would an 90 year old dude cared about getting prosecuted?
@big freedom, well there are good ones and others not so good. You clearly wasn't interested in a decent conversation, you just wanted to thrash talk the left, which is fine but but it wasn't something I was interested in doing.
@MrLogg, I’m not trashtalking the left. I’m pointing out the reality of their ideology. If you’re unable to come to terms with reality then that’s on you.
@big freedom, I believe that is the reality you have chosen to believe in but that doesn't mean that everyone has to believe in it.
@MrLogg, you’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
@big freedom, and the bat story is facts? From where? Of course facts are facts but just because someone says it's facts doesn't make it so. There are people saying that the earth is flat and that it is based on facts. People still thinking covid-19 is a hoax because they've been told so by respected people. That God is the reason why certain things happen. So you must always question the facts to make sure they are accurate.
@MrLogg, dude... the media have called violence “mostly peaceful”. I erred trying to give you a simplistic analogy that I thought you may have the mental ability to connect the dots.
The fact is that violence has come for months and months from violent Marxists. These are facts, not opinions.
You are incredibly naive is my opinion based on your inability to take in factual information and turn that into a reasonable, wise, logically based position. You choose to remain willfully ignorant despite all of the information available to you.
@big freedom, well its has also been reported about people not connected to the protesters, even people related to the police whom has been the ones causing damage. Not saying that that always has been the case. Protesters has also in many cases stopped others who started picking up stones or in other ways acted violently. I try to watch/read as much as possible before judging entire groups. There are almost always those who isn't in it for the beliefs or ideologies as much as just causing chaos. It's very visible in sport hooligans, they plan the fights before going to the game but that doesn't make all of that team fans hooligans.
@MrLogg, yes. And who do they align themselves with? Marxists Antifa and BLM.
Of course there are good people in the protests who don’t want violence. But there are some who do. They give cover and legitimacy to the violence and the media is complicit.
@big freedom, many of them would probably go wherever there are large protests. I would in many cases say that they use these groups more than that these groups give them cover. What branch of Marxists are you referring to, are you familiar with the different ones? Not sure if you are one of those but seen so many saying that voting democrats will result in communism?
@MrLogg, the Democrats have been hands off of violent protests, which have emboldened them to continue to push further. Tearing down Abe Lincoln statues now. It’s as if they have read 1984 as an instruction manual. Teaching 1619 project in schools. Antifa, BLM organization.
Bernie Sanders and AOC, yes the Democrat party is pushing further left toward Marxism.
@big freedom, a bit selective reply but ok. Are we talking ortodox Marxism, they have similarities but some are quite different?
@MrLogg, I didn’t realize that you’re here for an academic, theory based (not real world) hypothetical discussion on different Marxist theories. Or are you just looking to dodge the reality of what’s happening and have theory discussion instead?
@big freedom, just wanted to know that you know what you are talking about and not just repeating stuff you've heard so I can take you seriously. There are so many people who sling words they don't know the meaning of and those are hopeless to discuss with. Wasn't a fan of your early comments and to be honest they haven't gotten that much better.
@MrLogg, I’m not here to make friends. It’s very hard for me to put up with anyone that even begins to stick up for socialism in any of its forms. I know too many people that have risked their lives, literally, to escape communism. They all have the same thing to say! Avoid socialism at all costs. It is how the leaders, who only want power, to soft sell a watered down version to the useful idiots. It always goes further toward more control and less individual liberties.
@big freedom, so you don't. Don't worry I don't want you as a friend. Take care.
@MrLogg, lol. Good one. “So you don’t”
@MrLogg,*valley girl voice:
“I’ve learned about socialism through CNN and ultra liberal college TA’s, so I’m super informed on what it is and all the academic theories that have zero practical application! And I write about it on a funny meme app, so I’m like, SUPER informed” - MrLogg
@big freedom, well in spite all the available information around you you haven't shown that you do know so my conclusion is that you don't, and don't want to because you've made up your mind and nothing will ever change it.
I wouldn't be surprised if you are one of the many interviewed by Klepper at some Trump rally. You should try getting informed yourself, it's not that hard.
@MrLogg, because I haven’t shown you what? There is nothing to show you. Like I said, the evidence is there for you. All you have to do is take it in and turn it into a rational argument based on logic, I have. It seems that you’re capable of that, only coming back with “no u” logical fallacy. Run along now.... shoo
@big freedom, how ironic, that is exactly what it seems like you are doing. Yes this one is a "no you" I'll give you that but seriously, how do you think you'll convince others when you can't argue your cause?
@MrLogg, why bother? If we had hours of in person conversation, there is zero chance that you could convince me that socialism is ok. And if you believe that socialism is ok, there is no logical argument that will wake you up, especially in text form with a character limit. So, why bother trying to convince you of anything? Your stance on socialism proves that you cannot be reasoned with. 🤷♂️
@big freedom, you just don't get it. Well you surely couldn't convince me.
@MrLogg, nope. Like the saying goes, it’s hard to win an argument against a smart person... but it’s impossible to win against a stupid person. You win, again.
@big freedom, sure dodger.
I see obama I downvote. I see biden I downvote... Seems I need to make a second account for this one
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